"Blacks Are Stealing History" Egypt, Sumer, China, Maya etc etc

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How we do own physical research and not be reactionary.
We, our youth, have ZERO interest of becoming archeologist one day... in general.
We are digging because we are the Orginal man and constantly create history, whereas the pale folk need to dig , discover, manipulate

So first we'd have to be motivated.

2nd..we need to forget about trying to control egypt and make sure we keep pale people out of areas with deeper histories and do it ourselves, like Sudan and Mali
 

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You are pigeonholing the most genetically diverse region on Earth. You claim Egyptians, one nation in a very flung off corner of Northeast Africa, made up a significant part of the cultural habits and DNA of West Africa. West Africa is huge with multiple different tribes and clans. Ancient Egyptians (if we talking just the ethnicity and not the country which had a large minority of non Egyptians) were just one group. You saying that everyone from the Mende to the Yoruba have Egyptian blood?

The confusion that you are having starts from the fact that you don't understand the largely biological groupings of African ethnicities (meaning the greater family), even the one that you belong to. The group that the "Mende to Yoruba" belong to are the "Niger-Congo" family; who are defined by the paternal lineage E1b1a.

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Yes this African family originated in Northeastern Africa, and particularly the Sudan/Nubia. This family eventually dispersed from the region once the non African invasions began to happen, beginning with the Hyksos, and largely during the later Persian invasion.

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In those very same paintings they seem to distinguish themselves from the Nubians(who were black).
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If the Egyptians were anything they were probably mixed, explained by the fact that they weren't only multicultural but also got conquered and ruled by several different civilizations (including Nubia).



my thing is,

the west is judging "blackness" based off 19th and 20th century racial models

no doubt through Ados and the transatlantic. And if modern aframs were to depict ourselves, we would be using the same skin color the Egyptians are using:lolbron:

the Nubians(nilolithic) are literally the darkest people on earth. Thats why they're depicted that way
 

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I just find it hard to believe that senegambians, mandes, krus, krans, igbos, hausas and yurubas all came from the same ancient egypt.

With the exception of the Hausas, the groups that you've listed belong to a common family! You don't seem to understand that because you're coming from a tribalistic African mindset. A family has an origin somewhere, and the evidence does not in any way shape or form imply that this greater family originated outside of Eastern - Northeastern Africa. West Africa was uninhabitable until the second millennium BC. The monsoon rains that brought fertility to ancient Sahara during the early Holocene oversaturated tropical West Africa. to the point that there were only small islands of land there that the Pygmies inhabited.


most may not know where there people came from 4k years ago, but each of these cultures all have urban legends and myths that just don't align with ancient egytian culture, no matter how many bead necklace that are posted here.

Our history is such a serious topic, and I hate when people so uninformed on issues with such readily available sources make absolute statements as though you all know anything or have put forth effort to understanding. You clearly don't know ANYTHING about this topic, and you're going off of c00nish emotions. Black people who do are trying to find a bridge to kiss the ass of white people. White people hate Afrocentrism with a passion, and by taking shots at it these c00ns get a pat on the head (you're not like the other one's, you're "rational"). Every group that you've named has an origin story in the Nile Valley civilization. Not one of them claims to have originated in Western Africa.

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I know for a fact that Mande ancestors were in southern Mauritania as early as 3000 bc in the Dhar Tichectt area.

Mande are an early break away group from the Niger-Congo family. that originated in Sudanese Nubia. This is supported by linguistics. This group dominated the Western Sahara rather than the Fezzan region of southern Libya and the Egyptian Western Desert that most of Nile Valley migrates came to during the early Holocene. The Mande script is just as old as Medu Neter's official recognition around 3.000 BC. They were the only Niger-Congo group to have migrated West towards the Western Sahara/Atlantic Ocean when the Sahara turned back into desert, This migration was not an "Afro-Asiatic migration" since there is no "Afro-Asiatic" language family.

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Explained here


but the rest of the family went back to the East on Nile River to form dynastic civilization.
 
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So much hotep stupidity in this thread from a bunch of Americans who think they know more about Africa than Africans themselves

Soooo.....you get upset because I refute what you say, and rather than accepting that I'm correct and that you don't have anything to logically tell you to reject this truth, you resort to an ad hominem. That is such a bytch move. nikka if you're wrong be a man and admit it, if not then respond to what I said above.

Remember African Americans and the Diaspora are the ones who lead the movement of African centered thought not Africans lol. Chancellor Williams was a South Carolinian who went to remote regions of Africa to do field research in the early 1900's, and amassed enough information to produce "The Destruction of Black Civilization" which has been a crutch of African centered scholars that followed including Africans lol. If you want to go there, it was the diaspora that essentially freed Africa from Colonial slavery in the Southern regions (Cuba). African Americans and disapora are the ones who woke Africans up in the first place, so to assume that because you are on the continent that you know more than a Black person who actually studies African history is assinine.

Furthermore, you cannot disprove any of what you label "Hotep stupidity", so your response is nothing more than hoe babble lol.
 
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So much hotep stupidity in this thread from a bunch of Americans who think they know more about Africa than Africans themselves

We’ll believe your love for Africa is genuine when you decide to stop fleeing it for European colonies or selling it out for a Mercedes and a gold chain. Y’all literally bickered over dumb shyt to the point where the continent got taken from up under our feet. Your way of thinking is broken and hasn’t done shyt for the continent outside us ending up in bondage in our homeland and the the world over.

lastly, we are tied to Africa just as much as anyone else. Just cuz your dad owns two goats and a mud shack in Nigeria doesn’t make anymore of an authority on it than us.
 

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my thing is,

the west is judging "blackness" based off 19th and 20th century racial models

no doubt through Ados and the transatlantic. And if modern aframs were to depict ourselves, we would be using the same skin color the Egyptians are using:lolbron:

the Nubians(nilolithic) are literally the darkest people on earth. Thats why they're depicted that way
So they separated themselves from the "dark" black people:mjpls:
 

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Another point for Egypt being an outgrowth of a broader African civilization, when you research archaeological finds in west Africa, you don't get much before the 1st millennium bc. So where was everybody before that?

Im still looking though, if anybody wants to point me in the right direction.

Id also like to highlight that none of the deniers have addressed me or my points.
 

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With the exception of the Hausas, the groups that you've listed belong to a common family! You don't seem to understand that because you're coming from a tribalistic African mindset. A family has an origin somewhere, and the evidence does not in any way shape or form imply that this greater family originated outside of Eastern - Northeastern Africa. West Africa was uninhabitable until the second millennium BC. The monsoon rains that brought fertility to ancient Sahara during the early Holocene oversaturated tropical West Africa. to the point that there were only small islands of land there that the Pygmies inhabited.




Our history is such a serious topic, and I hate when people so uninformed on issues with such readily available sources make absolute statements as though you all know anything or have put forth effort to understanding. You clearly don't know ANYTHING about this topic, and you're going off of c00nish emotions. Black people who do are trying to find a bridge to kiss the ass of white people. White people hate Afrocentrism with a passion, and by taking shots at it these c00ns get a pat on the head (you're not like the other one's, you're "rational"). Every group that you've named has an origin story in the Nile Valley civilization. Not one of them claims to have originated in Western Africa.

jrqln4.jpg



Mande are an early break away group from the Niger-Congo family. that originated in Sudanese Nubia. This is supported by linguistics. This group dominated the Western Sahara rather than the Fezzan region of southern Libya and the Egyptian Western Desert that most of Nile Valley migrates came to during the early Holocene. The Mande script is just as old as Medu Neter's official recognition around 3.000 BC. They were the only Niger-Congo group to have migrated West towards the Western Sahara/Atlantic Ocean when the Sahara turned back into desert, This migration was not an "Afro-Asiatic migration" since there is no "Afro-Asiatic" language family.

800px-Afro-asiatic_map_zps9xsmncuc.png

29d8mt1.jpg


Explained here


but the rest of the family went back to the East on Nile River to form dynastic civilization.

now this is more like it.

save me that c00n shyt you talking about

so, at what time period did Mande's split from the rest of the pack and headed Mali/Mauritania because according to historians, the structures in Dhar Tichit has been there since atleast 2000BC by their ancestors
 

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Another point for Egypt being an outgrowth of a broader African civilization, when you research archaeological finds in west Africa, you don't get much before the 1st millennium bc. So where was everybody before that?

Im still looking though, if anybody wants to point me in the right direction.

Id also like to highlight that none of the deniers have addressed me or my points.
Dhar Tichett in southern Mauritania dates back 2000BC. it wasn't anything fancy it was said to be the first urban settlement in west africa.
 

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because It makes no sense first it was Jews, then it was the moors, now it’s the Egyptians. Which one is it because understand you CAN NOT be all 3. It’s absolutely not possible

Why can’t they all be different groups of black people? The Khoisan tribe is different from the Sudanese who are different from the avg African American yet they’d all get lumped into being black...
 
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