One undeniable classic track does not make a classic. Cherry pick any classic album. Any one. And look at its track list and count how many dope ass, timeless tracks are on there as opposed to average/bad ones. They all have predominantly great tracks. BP3 has a bad ratio of great to average/bad tracks. It's a very average album. You can't just catapult it to timeless classic because it had Empire State of Mind and POSSIBLY started trends. Be objective breh.
Yes BP3 made history by winning the most grammy's for a rap album (6). Yes ESOM is a Classic song and will be remembered forever. But this album is far from Classic. 3.5 MICS at best. It's the worst in the BP series, even BP2 is better and a lot of people felt that album was weak. Jay was coasting lyrically on BP3, the production was all over the place. Yes there's hot songs but there's also some terrible songs like "Hate" that Ye and Jay should be ashamed of themselves. BP3 is one of Jay's weakest albums despite it's success. Post-Retirement, it's the weakest album. American Gangster put it to shame and yes I even liked "Kingdom Come" better.
As I've mentioned in this thread, I'm calling it a classic off it's impact and accolades rather than the music. I personally don't think it's a top 5 Jigga album, but no other album of his elevated himself or brought anything to the game like BP3. Only albums that come close in that area are BP1 and TBA. Sure you have great albums that are always praised on here like like Below The Heavens or Food & Liquor, but what did they bring to hip hop? It's classic in the sense that it will be remembered for it's accomplishments on a cultural scale.
Yea man, cause we all know that Jay-Z stans stay out of Nas, Wayne and Em threads![]()
What would you be more incline to call a classic, BP3 or AG?So now where basing classics on an albums impact alone, huh? fukk the music, right? You're just being ridiculous
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So now where basing classics on an albums impact alone, huh? fukk the music, right? You're just being ridiculous
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What would you be more incline to call a classic, BP3 or AG?
HHID is better than anything Jigga's put out since The black album
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American Gangster. Dope tracks, top to bottom. Jay was spitting and the beats were great. It only had one conspicuously bad track (Hello Brooklyn). It also made some noise because it sold well and brought Jay back to the drug raps he made his name with. AG is a much, much better album than BP3. Shouldn't even be a debate. I personally don't think it's a classic but I don't argue with anyone who does.
AG was his lowest-selling CD with no top 40 hits and some called it a watered down RD.
BP3 was a beast commercially and won him his most grammies.
Which, do you think, he'd be more inclined to replicate?
Yes BP3 made history by winning the most grammy's for a rap album (6). Yes he broke Elvis Record with this album. Yes ESOM is a Classic song and will be remembered forever. Yes all of us old head love how Jay smacked up this generation with "D.O.A." But this album is far from Classic. 3.5 MICS at best. It's the worst in the BP series, even BP2 is better and a lot of people felt that album was weak. Jay was coasting lyrically on BP3, the production was all over the place. Yes there's hot songs but there's also some terrible songs like "Hate" that Ye and Jay should be ashamed of themselves. BP3 is one of Jay's weakest albums despite it's success. Post-Retirement, it's the weakest album. American Gangster put it to shame and yes I even liked "Kingdom Come" better.
CLASSIC
ESOM
HOT
ALREADY HOME
STAR IS BORN
RUN THIS TOWN
D.O.A.
ON TO THE NEXT ONE
AVERAGE
Ambitious
Young Forever
Reminder
What we talking about
Thank You
WACK
HATE
Venus VS Mars
Off That
on to the next one and we off that were hot and thank you was average![]()