OfTheCross
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Cause my response to you is why I brought up the Kimbo v Shamrock numbers to begin with...
I figured it was a continuation of that conversation (i didn't go back and read what we were saying, tbh)
Boxers in 1750 getting paid better than MMA fighters in 2015
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Cause my response to you is why I brought up the Kimbo v Shamrock numbers to begin with...
I figured it was a continuation of that conversation (i didn't go back and read what we were saying, tbh)
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
But how does kimbo vs shamrocks numbers refute the post of mine you quoted? I did say bellator could always muster a little spike in ratings here and there with the right fight but it will never sustain any real traction or build itself of a star fighter
OfTheCross
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Because what I was trying to prove is that the fans/viewers/eyes will follow the fighter, not the banner.
If Jon Jones fought DC on a Bellator card it'd have the same interest from the fans.
Just like Conor McGregor v Siver has the same appeal as Shamrock v. Kimbo.
Fans are gonna watch the fighters they want to watch regardless
Roman Brady
Nobody Lives Forever
But that goes to the point of "the right fight" which we already saw regrettably with tito/bonnar,that isn't news. My argument was about transitioning that to real fans that will look at bellator as a legit alternative or better and that will never happen with their current business model
OfTheCross
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I'ma have to revisit the pay... it's been a couple years. Maybe MMA stepped up a bit
LastManStanding
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The average UFC pay-per-view does 300,000-800,000 buys. Even if you take the lowest bought ones and do the math, they are still terribly underpaid. 300,000 PPV buys at $70 is $21 million. Then add another $3-5 million in gate revenue/misc..
So say roughly $25 million in total revenue for the bottom drawing PPV's. Yet the fighters Total payout may be 10% of that number. It's a business with a ton of expenses and no one is expecting the UFC to payout 50% or more of the revenue, but it should definitely be way more than 10%. Something along the lines of 25-35% would be more fair.
So say roughly $25 million in total revenue for the bottom drawing PPV's. Yet the fighters Total payout may be 10% of that number. It's a business with a ton of expenses and no one is expecting the UFC to payout 50% or more of the revenue, but it should definitely be way more than 10%. Something along the lines of 25-35% would be more fair.
The total payout for those cards has to be above 2.5Ms. If not, how the hell is there NOT a fighters union? Are these UFC nicckas really that stupid???
LastManStanding
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Obviously when big headliners are fighting (Conor, etc.) it is more, but the majority of UFC PPV's the fighters payout is only a few million total. The main event fighters get $200,000-$500,000 each and then the rest of the card gets somewhere between $10,000-$100,000 each.
Either way, regardless if it's a PPV that does 300,000 buys or 1,500,000 buys, it's rare for the total fighters payout to be more than 10-15% of the total revenue from the show.
The UFC is running these dudes either way. They get ad money for ppvs too plus the octagon add but the fighters only get that lame ass Reebok money and less fighter bonuses
Most pay per views this year have barely broken 200g, it's been a really bad year for the UFC
Boxing doesn't have a union
I'm gonna venture to say there's boxers that laid the blueprint for these dudes. Conor is bout to show them how to do it, but who else in MMA can these brehs look at?
Conor is locked in a long term deal, he won't be doing anything. I bet he regrets signing long term
At the same time he inked a comeup deal with this Floyd fight tho. He could retire off the fight if he wanted to
He could retire but he's not making as much Floyd and the UFC is shaking him down. If he was a fa he could start his own promotion and shut the UFC down