BREAKING: Biden has the Ronies!!!! (COVID)

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What are you saying?. So you said you don't wear a mask cause other people don't wear their masks?.
Nah bruh, thats not what I said at all. I was just telling you that I hardly see anyone wearing masks period. Im beginning to think the condition you have is a lack of comprehension. And you dont need a mask for that one bruh.
 

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Most covid cases are mild nowadays. A lot of the covid cases we find in the hospital I work at tend to be incidental findings. I don’t remember the last bad covid case I’ve seen….
 

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T cell epitopes absolutely do matter in this conversation since they are currently one of the main mechanisms that prevent replication. The live attenuated vaccines used in chickens against marek's disease are considered "permissive vaccines" and don't prevent replication. That is why I asked you to provide a paper that provided the proof that the newer variants were evading t cell epitopes.

Even if the current vaccines were permissive, that wouldn't be the end of the world since the inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) is also a permissive vaccine. Basically it prevents the systemic spread of wild type polio but doesn't prevent the replication of the virus in the gut where it normally wants to replicate and shed.

Fun fact #1: the author of the paper you posted (Andrew Read) doesn't even agree that the covid vaccines are leaky



Fun Fact #2: the herpes virus that causes marek's disease is an example of a virus that became more virulent even before a vaccine existed for it.

Andrew Read's paper never discusses T cell epitopes, so why should I be held to a higher standard? The fact of the matter is we have people like Joe Biden who have been vaccinated and double boosted contracting and transmitting Covid. Thus by definition, it is a leaky vaccine. I refuse to argue this point further.

re: Fun Fact#1 : I already stated that one can make a strong argument against comparisons between the vaccine attributed virus mututations of Covid and Mareks. What Andrew Read fails to mention is that Chickens get a single vaccination while we are suppose to get a vaccination, plus quarterly boosters. He also makes the erroneous claim about Covid spreading primarily amongst the unvaccinated, by using hospital populations as proof. If the vaccines reduce severe disease and hospitalization, the vaccinated simply spread asymptomatically and without severe disease. Given how Marek's disease works in vaccinated chickens, I consider Dr. Read's response, intellectually dishonest.

re: Fun Fact#2 : Covid mutated and became more virulent before a vaccine existed as well: link
 
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