Breaking news: Schools are now free to begin paying their athletes directly, marking the dawn of a new era in college sports.

[King Poetic]

Ohio State will eat

Texas will eat

LSU will eat

And a few others

Mid majors are fukk

 

[concise]

This will probably lead to more high school kids reclassifying to get the bag earlier. Probably gonna see a bunch of 16 year olds in college.

It academic prodigies can do it, why not athletic prodigies?

 

[jadillac]

I ignore it because you dont believe that due to supporting everything that goes against players getting paid.

The NFL don’t have these issues due to collective bargaining with its union. its something the NCAA fought against. It was asked earlier, do you support an athlete union? You never answered the question.

I would be all for a union if it provided STRUCTURE.

And I've literally said nothing against players getting paid going ALL THE WAY BACK to sohh. My point for 12 years has been the exact issues that are happening right now.

 

[FTBS]

As per usual ypu all ignore where I said "players getting paid is fine"

It's like you all can't formulate an argument for NIL and player movement to have some type of regulation. But you'd be up in arms if the NFL moved like this

It about priorities. Whats more important...the workforce that brings all this money in getting what they rightfully deserve ie people not being exploited so others can just get richer or tradition and convenience? Both dont fit neatly and perfectly together (in large part because the powers that be fought tooth and nail against fairness and frankly, legality and morality forever) so you gotta make some concessions and accept certain things one way or the other. Your priority determines what concessions you are willing to make.

If you prioritize labor actually being compensated ie the legally and morally correct thing, then you have to accept that it aint gonna be how its always been and may just be messy...or shyt it may blow up. If you prioritize tradition and what you have come to enjoy then you have to accept people being exploited. Whatever side you are on you gotta be willing to be self aware and keep it a buck.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Paying players is fine but now that this is the direction it's time for an actual commissioner and basic rules for this shyt. There should be contracts. Players should have to commit to two year contracts that only get broken if the coach leaves or gets fired. This shyt where dudes play at 4 schools in 4 years has to stop.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

It was my post, but again NIL has been around going on 5-6 years. So these jobs were fine before. This cut just happened because NIL is getting out of Control with no oversight.

Paying someone $4 mil dollars to transfer to your school to play cfb and they get hurt & never see the field is STUPID.

There needs to be rules, contracts, or something in place.

True....but then you have to call the athletes "employees" and that means collective bargaining, which is EXACTLY what the schools don't want.

What they want is a tight cap on what players can be paid, less mobility and no upper limit on $$$$ for coaches, AD's etc.

The big dog schools will get it to work no matter what because they always have an army of bagmen to offset any financial shortfall for the players.

Of course there's also the Title IX angle, so you've got to balance the football/men's hoops side with lots of non-revenue sports. Football costs the most $$$ but it brings in the most $$$. Is it worth it to throw all the eggs on football...or spend just enough to be "good" and throw money at sports where you have a better chance of winning a 'ship?

 

[Ozymandeas]

So basically a bunch of people who benefited off of the free labor of black men and you think it’s a mess? Basically they had jobs they would not have had otherwise if the athletes were properly compensated. I know a bunch of businesses that could hire more staff if they paid the primary breadwinners nothing.

Do you realize college trainers make more than the training staff for professional athletes? It’s because they have a windfall of not having to be factored into an overall budget that includes millions to athletes. All these people benefited off the back of free labor and stuffed their pockets and never wanted to share money with the athletes. They fought it when the Northwestern kids tried to unionize. And mess that exists is self inflicted and have no sympathy and the smallest violin. Why didn’t those donors go to bat for the kids to get paid? They can go sit the fukk down.

The real issue here is that OU - despite you calling it a major university is 45 out of 69 power 5 conference universities in terms of endowment (and I don’t know if that number includes a school like Notre Dame). A lot of you guys have been les to believe many of these schools have deeper pockets and are more prestigious than you think because of their athletic prowess.

Nothing you said is a legitimate defense for why there shouldn't be oversight.

Your whole post can be summed up as "they did us wrong, so we don't care what happens now"

 

[Ozymandeas]

Paying players is fine but now that this is the direction it's time for an actual commissioner and basic rules for this shyt. There should be contracts. Players should have to commit to two year contracts that only get broken if the coach leaves or gets fired. This shyt where dudes play at 4 schools in 4 years has to stop.

That sounds reasonable imo.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

You guys who don't even watch college sports are happy about this.

Majority of REAL cfb fans have already seen how the sport is being ruined by this. And don't ask me "how so", because if you watch/follow you can already see it.

Players getting paid is fine (I already know half of you will ignore me saying that line),...but no formal process or rules in place is problem. And now that problem will only get bigger.

How has it ruined the sport? And the bolded not happening unless the players want a union

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Paying players is fine but now that this is the direction it's time for an actual commissioner and basic rules for this shyt. There should be contracts. Players should have to commit to two year contracts that only get broken if the coach leaves or gets fired. This shyt where dudes play at 4 schools in 4 years has to stop.

Maybe but again this is illegal lol

 

[tru_m.a.c]

that entire clemson athletic department dropped to their knees and threw up at this news

 

[David_TheMan]

You guys who don't even watch college sports are happy about this.

Majority of REAL cfb fans have already seen how the sport is being ruined by this. And don't ask me "how so", because if you watch/follow you can already see it.

Players getting paid is fine (I already know half of you will ignore me saying that line),...but no formal process or rules in place is problem. And now that problem will only get bigger.

I love college football.
Fact of the matter is college never should have been in the amateur sports profession.

If this leads to a break that is for the better.

 

[jadillac]

Paying players is fine but now that this is the direction it's time for an actual commissioner and basic rules for this shyt. There should be contracts. Players should have to commit to two year contracts that only get broken if the coach leaves or gets fired. This shyt where dudes play at 4 schools in 4 years has to stop.

This is what I've been saying.

At least for freshman they need to sign for 2 yrs.

Because wth. What if you're a school like Kansas St and you discover a Kansas hs kid no one else is recruiting. A 0 star prospect. You bring him in, train him, get him right in the s&c program etc., he has a surprising very good freshman season and can be a cornerstone player for you. Then boom, he's gone the day after the last reg. season (skips the bowl game) game bc Miami came calling. What's the point of being a fan at that point?

Again, dudes in here would cry unfair if this was happening in the NFL.

What's going to happen is, some school will pay a QB $5-6 million dollars to transfer, he'll get hurt in training camp and be out for the season. Only to transfer to another school the following year for another $2-3 million.
Then we'll see some changes to the process .

 

[No1]

This is what I've been saying.

At least for freshman they need to sign for 2 yrs.

Because wth. What if you're a school like Kansas St and you discover a Kansas hs kid no one else is recruiting. A 0 star prospect. You bring him in, train him, get him right in the s&c program etc., he has a surprising very good freshman season and can be a cornerstone player for you. Then boom, he's gone the day after the last reg. season (skips the bowl game) game bc Miami came calling. What's the point of being a fan at that point?

Again, dudes in here would cry unfair if this was happening in the NFL.

As long as coaches can leave whenever - so should players. They signed to a specific coach and a specific scheme. People leave jobs that train them for more money every day - that’s what being an employee is. And the idea that you’re more of a college football fan than those of us who literally graduated from these schools is laughable. Michigan lost Hunter dikkinson to a bag - we didn’t have our money right oh well. Lose Saab to Bama oh well. The young man got paid like he should. Your whole “I do want them to get paid” but I want to limit how they can get paid falls hollow. Let me know when coaches don’t jump ship for more money after getting kids to commit to them.

 

[No1]

Nothing you said is a legitimate defense for why there shouldn't be oversight.

Your whole post can be summed up as "they did us wrong, so we don't care what happens now"

Or you’re too illiterate to read where I said they should be able to unionize and have standardized contracts. I was responding to the emotional ass argument he made and gave the solution. What does a CBA do? It sets terms.