Breaking news: Schools are now free to begin paying their athletes directly, marking the dawn of a new era in college sports.

[Ozymandeas]

Or you’re too illiterate to read where I said they should be able to unionize and have standardized contracts. I was responding to the emotional ass argument he made and gave the solution. What does a CBA do? It sets terms.

I read your tirade. You said nothing of worth

@jadillac made perfect sense in saying there needs to be oversight. Your post was tantamount to saying "black kids were exploited before, so who cares if they game the system now". It's such a juvenile take to have as a grown man. These kids are making millions of dollars and getting an education. Their contracts can be structured. GTFOH.

 

[TM101]

Now that these college boys can get paid, it's time to make them stay another year in college to get them ready for the NBA. One and done isn't enough to compete in this current era of basketball.

 

[jadillac]

As long as coaches can leave whenever - so should players. They signed to a specific coach and a specific scheme. People leave jobs that train them for more money every day - that’s what being an employee is.

Coaches aren't leaving like y'all constantly try to attribute.

And okay, if the coach leaves you get the right to transfer too. That's fair.
If not, stick to your 2 yr contract.

And these are still students, with majors, classrs etc. Why make them go to school at all? They're just going to transfer somewhere regardless of if the school offers their major?

Y'all seem to forget that older ppl who are alum are the ones paying for this thru donations . Or a major millionaire donator, these ppl don't like giving millions of dollars for a kid to get hurt or leave after 1 yr. Or a kid starts negotiating with other schools mid season.

They are already cutting back on donations. It's going to happen more, just watch the next few years.

 

[charknicks]

Coaches aren't leaving like y'all constantly try to attribute.

And okay, if the coach leaves you get the right to transfer too. That's fair.
If not, stick to your 2 yr contract.

And these are still students, with majors, classrs etc. Why make them go to school at all? They're just going to transfer somewhere regardless of if the school offers their major?

Y'all seem to forget that older ppl who are alum are the ones paying for this thru donations . Or a major millionaire donator, these ppl don't like giving millions of dollars for a kid to get hurt or leave after 1 yr. Or a kid starts negotiating with other schools mid season.

They are already cutting back on donations. It's going to happen more, just watch the next few years.

This. There are for sure some that are misguided and are basically gong-ho for players getting money that they wish that they could have if/when they were playing. The problem is the system as a whole.

This NIL system is not sustainable for the long-term. So, while Im glad that players are getting money, they need to get it while they can cause the bottom will be falling out.

There are plenty of donors at these small schools who are stopping their donations, cause their schools have no chance to compete for anything, and they are just throwing money into a black hole. All those donors add up, and these mid tier schools wont compete, and be able to pay, and that just will shrink the pool of money overall. This system will be overhauled within the next 5 years in a major way.

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Now that these college boys can get paid, it's time to make them stay another year in college to get them ready for the NBA. One and done isn't enough to compete in this current era of basketball.

Pitino said the same thing. He'd pass on 5 stars cause he doesn't think you can win big with them.

 

[jadillac]

This. There are for sure some that are misguided and are basically gong-ho for players getting money that they wish that they could have if/when they were playing. The problem is the system as a whole.

This NIL system is not sustainable for the long-term. So, while Im glad that players are getting money, they need to get it while they can cause the bottom will be falling out.

There are plenty of donors at these small schools who are stopping their donations, cause their schools have no chance to compete for anything, and they are just throwing money into a black hole. All those donors add up, and these mid tier schools wont compete, and be able to pay, and that just will shrink the pool of money overall. This system will be overhauled within the next 5 years in a major way.

Exactly, thank you. I was starting to think I'm crazy. Lol.

If you're a Texas Tech and spent $240,000,000 on new facilities from donor money in order to not be 15 years behind other schools technology. Now you gotta beg donors/alum again for another 12-15 mil to field a roster only for you to go 8-5 in the Big 12 , how long do you think that's gonna fly? Like you said throwing money in a black hole.

Coli response: "w w well instead of spending that money on the facilities/training equipment/nutrition, they should've gave that to the players"

 

[Left.A1]

You guys who don't even watch college sports are happy about this.

Majority of REAL cfb fans have already seen how the sport is being ruined by this. And don't ask me "how so", because if you watch/follow you can already see it.

Players getting paid is fine (I already know half of you will ignore me saying that line),...but no formal process or rules in place is problem. And now that problem will only get bigger.

c00ns mad

 

[Left.A1]

Now that these college boys can get paid, it's time to make them stay another year in college to get them ready for the NBA. One and done isn't enough to compete in this current era of basketball.

More college doesn't equal more “readiness” if that were the case the senior players drafted would be turning into better players than everyone else but obviously that's not the case

 

[Rekkapryde]

Paying players is fine but now that this is the direction it's time for an actual commissioner and basic rules for this shyt. There should be contracts. Players should have to commit to two year contracts that only get broken if the coach leaves or gets fired. This shyt where dudes play at 4 schools in 4 years has to stop.

that's not how the real world works though if a person wants to change jobs 4 times in 4 years.

edit: unless you wanna add in no compete clauses (which do exists).

Problem with that is that's it's going to take restraint from some schools getting mad they can't poach like that anymore. But there's always going to be one that gets mad and sues and messes up the agreement.


ALL OF THIS could have been avoided.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

I wonder how Title IX is gonna play into this. You know soon as football players get put on the official payroll some chick on the women’s bowling team is gonna demand equal compensation.

Schools will probably want to keep direct payments at a minimum because of this and let the boosters run up the NIL numbers like usual.

lets be reality....

the only sports that are truly profitable is football....and maybe basketball depending on the school...

nobody is going to see bowling...water polo....softball.....etc...

i live in BR....LSU football is bigger than the Saints down here....baseball makes money too here....they tail gate baseball like football at LSU

other than that none of these sports probably make a profit.....

 

[Rekkapryde]

lets be reality....

the only sports that are truly profitable is football....and maybe basketball depending on the school...

nobody is going to see bowling...water polo....softball.....etc...

i live in BR....LSU football is bigger than the Saints down here....baseball makes money too here....they tail gate baseball like football at LSU

other than that none of these sports probably make a profit.....

them student athletic fees 100% make up for the shortfall. And now with this legislation, that number is 100% going up. Smaller public and less rich schools gonna hit their student population over the head to pay the athletes bill now.

 

[R.B.J1]

I said that years ago. NCAA messed up by being so resistant to paying players years ago. If they did this years ago, they coulda paid like $10,000/year per player and got it over with. Now, the players will be Millionaires

I agree, in the mid 1990's some floated the ideal of paying each athlete $20K. Greedy cac coaches with the mindset of Dabo Swinney rejected the ideal.

 

[mastermind]

This. There are for sure some that are misguided and are basically gong-ho for players getting money that they wish that they could have if/when they were playing. The problem is the system as a whole.

This NIL system is not sustainable for the long-term. So, while Im glad that players are getting money, they need to get it while they can cause the bottom will be falling out.

There are plenty of donors at these small schools who are stopping their donations, cause their schools have no chance to compete for anything, and they are just throwing money into a black hole. All those donors add up, and these mid tier schools wont compete, and be able to pay, and that just will shrink the pool of money overall. This system will be overhauled within the next 5 years in a major way.

I genuinely don't care.

Think about what you wrote and remember this is for amateur athletics. If these schools want to get out of this "business" then good. It should have never been a business to begin with, especially a business that grew off free labor. If your school is struggling because you "need" to prop up a football program then drop football.

 

[No1]

them student athletic fees 100% make up for the shortfall. And now with this legislation, that number is 100% going up. Smaller public and less rich schools gonna hit their student population over the head to pay the athletes bill now.

Nah, most athletic departments at top schools are self-funding. The football and basketball players basically pay for all the other student athletes. Most of that equity talk is based on the illusion of “amateur” and collegiate athletics. Once they’re employees paid directly by the school - the school should be able to argue that they’re paying employees based on market demands and budget. Like how can a women’s basketball team with an empty gym say they should be paid the same as Duke men’s basketball? Unions will probably resolve all of that with revenue sharing. I do think programs will be cut however. Like Temple is on the verge of cutting football.

 

[charknicks]

Exactly, thank you. I was starting to think I'm crazy. Lol.

If you're a Texas Tech and spent $240,000,000 on new facilities from donor money in order to not be 15 years behind other schools technology. Now you gotta beg donors/alum again for another 12-15 mil to field a roster only for you to go 8-5 in the Big 12 , how long do you think that's gonna fly? Like you said throwing money in a black hole.

Coli response: "w w well instead of spending that money on the facilities/training equipment/nutrition, they should've gave that to the players"

Exactly. And its not with schools like Texas Tech per se (the main booster for Texas Tech's NIL fund just sold his oil company for $4 billion).

The point is all the other schools that dont have billionaire boosters. Every school cant do that. So even low level Big Ten or SEC or ACC schools, they cant match that. And with the mentality to be 'go where the money is' there is only so many spots at those schools. And once these kids dont produce championships, these boosters will stop donating.

Im not against these kids getting some money, but I am also not for the kids of today ruining the system so it will be done for kids 5, 10, 15 years down the road.