Breaking news: Schools are now free to begin paying their athletes directly, marking the dawn of a new era in college sports.

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I genuinely don't care.

Think about what you wrote and remember this is for amateur athletics. If these schools want to get out of this "business" then good. It should have never been a business to begin with, especially a business that grew off free labor. If your school is struggling because you need to prop up a football program then drop football.

First off, you do care cause you are in here typing about it. So lets get off that fake platform right now. You might not care about the schools, but you care about the system of these kids getting paid.

I hear you, so I will say this. To use your words, Amateurs dont get paid! Even amateurs in professional sports dont get paid until they are pros. So if they have been amateurs (your words), then no, they shouldnt have been paid. I dont believe that. They should get some money for what they are bringing to the school playing their sport.

Also, the labor was never 'free'. All these kids went to school free. But I still think they should get some money because of the damage they are putting on their bodies.

Last, the schools that need to be propped up are due to boosters, not the school itself. Thats there the extra money is coming from. That and the TV deals that people complain about so much.
 

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I genuinely don't care.

Think about what you wrote and remember this is for amateur athletics. If these schools want to get out of this "business" then good. It should have never been a business to begin with, especially a business that grew off free labor. If your school is struggling because you need to prop up a football program then drop football.

You can drop football if you are FCS or division 2 but you can’t drop football if you are a D1 school. The conference needs the schools to play football in order to bring in the media money. That media money is what pays for all the other programs outside of men’s basketball.

So if a school was somehow successfully able to drop football they are definitely getting kicked out the conference and then everyone else at that school is screwed.

Not to mention that football drives student applications, which is money for the school overall.
 

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You can drop football if you are FCS or division 2 but you can’t drop football if you are a D1 school. The conference needs the schools to play football in order to bring in the media money. That media money is what pays for all the other programs outside of men’s basketball.

So if a school was somehow successfully able to drop football they are definitely getting kicked out the conference and then everyone else at that school is screwed.

Not to mention that football drives student applications, which is money for the school overall.
you're correct that if they plan on staying in that existing mid-major conference as a full member they need football, but if enough of these schools drop football they can start a new conference that doesn't have football like the big east and west coast conference.
 

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You can drop football if you are FCS or division 2 but you can’t drop football if you are a D1 school. The conference needs the schools to play football in order to bring in the media money. That media money is what pays for all the other programs outside of men’s basketball.

So if a school was somehow successfully able to drop football they are definitely getting kicked out the conference and then everyone else at that school is screwed.

Not to mention that football drives student applications, which is money for the school overall.
Student applications is driven at schools where football is king and those schools will be fine. It’s not driving applications at most schools - that’s the common application.
 

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You guys who don't even watch college sports are happy about this.

Majority of REAL cfb fans have already seen how the sport is being ruined by this. And don't ask me "how so", because if you watch/follow you can already see it.

Players getting paid is fine (I already know half of you will ignore me saying that line),...but no formal process or rules in place is problem. And now that problem will only get bigger.

The biggest problem is revenue sharing. The Big 10 and SEC will always have an advantage because their tv deals are larger than anyone else.
 

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I read your tirade. You said nothing of worth:aicmon:

@jadillac made perfect sense in saying there needs to be oversight. Your post was tantamount to saying "black kids were exploited before, so who cares if they game the system now". It's such a juvenile take to have as a grown man. These kids are making millions of dollars and getting an education. Their contracts can be structured. GTFOH.
Yeah I genuinely don’t give a fukk about any opinions you’ve had and yet you keep quoting me while I’m openly telling you that I think you’re dumb. Like I didn’t even read this - I just saw your name and quoted to tell you to stop responding to me.
 

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First off, you do care cause you are in here typing about it. So lets get off that fake platform right now. You might not care about the schools, but you care about the system of these kids getting paid.

I hear you, so I will say this. To use your words, Amateurs dont get paid! Even amateurs in professional sports dont get paid until they are pros. So if they have been amateurs (your words), then no, they shouldnt have been paid. I dont believe that. They should get some money for what they are bringing to the school playing their sport.

Also, the labor was never 'free'. All these kids went to school free. But I still think they should get some money because of the damage they are putting on their bodies.

Last, the schools that need to be propped up are due to boosters, not the school itself. Thats there the extra money is coming from. That and the TV deals that people complain about so much.
First of, I don't care about schools falling apart trying to fund football. If you slowed down and read my post, you would see what I didn't care about was clearly stated.

Second, when I say I don't want big business in college sports, I mean let the amateurs not get paid and the schools to not use sports as revenue drivers. coaches don't need to be earning millions a year and being the highest paid employees in a state. End all of that.

If boosters want to contribute to that, then cool. If boosters want to contribute to building 100,000 seat stadiums and having $100 million weight rooms and athletic facilities and are complaining because they cant compete with schools that have 120,000 seat stadiums with corporate luxury suites and $300 million weight rooms and practice facilities, then boo fukking hoo. Drop the program.
 
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Exactly, thank you. I was starting to think I'm crazy. Lol.

If you're a Texas Tech and spent $240,000,000 on new facilities from donor money in order to not be 15 years behind other schools technology. Now you gotta beg donors/alum again for another 12-15 mil to field a roster only for you to go 8-5 in the Big 12 , how long do you think that's gonna fly? Like you said throwing money in a black hole.

Coli response: "w w well instead of spending that money on the facilities/training equipment/nutrition, they should've gave that to the players"
Honestly man...I don't get your argument. The answer is "create and manage a budget". Like every other organization in the world
 

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You can drop football if you are FCS or division 2 but you can’t drop football if you are a D1 school. The conference needs the schools to play football in order to bring in the media money. That media money is what pays for all the other programs outside of men’s basketball.

So if a school was somehow successfully able to drop football they are definitely getting kicked out the conference and then everyone else at that school is screwed.

Not to mention that football drives student applications, which is money for the school overall.
Yeah bro, drop it. These are universities, not professional sports clubs. Actual places of education. Drop it.
 

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you're correct that if they plan on staying in that existing mid-major conference as a full member they need football, but if enough of these schools drop football they can start a new conference that doesn't have football like the big east and west coast conference.
A few Big East programs actually have football teams, but they aren't trying to compete at the high level. There is nothing wrong with that. Find your level and stay there.
 

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A few Big East programs actually have football teams, but they aren't trying to compete at the high level. There is nothing wrong with that. Find your level and stay there.
but they aren't competing as big east football teams. uconn is an fbs indy (they're still trying to compete at a high level and would probably join the big 12 or acc in all sports tomorrow if that was available to them), georgetown is fcs, etc. but from a conference stand point there is no requirement for them to have football to be in the big east.

his argument was that these schools are forced by their conferences to play football as all sports members. that's true, but they don't have to stay and there will be a lot more that just say fukk it let's commit to the other sports. why is western michigan wasting their time with mac football for a $500k a year tv deal. the hockey team just won a national championship. focus on the ncaa sports that are actually fair competitions. FBS football isn't.
 
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