Breh on Facebook breaks down why Chloe is FLOPPING

[romeodunn]

It is because her rise was not organic, she and her sister benefitted from the Beyoncé plug but never built a large fan base of their own prior to that and ultimately that is what matters. Her sister was smart and stuck to the wholesome image using it as a springboard for movies and more. Chloe is trying too hard to use the sex lane but very rarely does that approach work for many female artists, the music is what matters; sex cannot make up for it; did not work for Tinashe, and many others. Other girls like Rihanna started with the good girl image and built a base off of that (and good music) before switching it up later.

 

[T. Dubb Ya]

This is how i feel too, she is basically Brandy trying to make Keshia Cole records.

Yup!!! Which is why people believe Beyonce and her team are sabataging Chloe's career.. Never understood why Chloe and Halle weren't packaged the way Brandy and Monica were in the 90's.. I remember being so confused when that "Have Mercy" video came out lol.

 

[King Poetic]

hammer actually gangster though

Totally true

But his fanbase and casual fans at the time didn’t know that

 

[Tetris v2.0]

Absolute facts. She wants to be Megan and not H.E.R. but she's really more the latter than the former. Megan really lives the toxic lifestyle and we saw how the whole situation played out over the last few years, but that's who she is and it seems genuine.

Many would call H.E.R. "lame" but she's a child prodigy who keeps it music first, and has cultivated an audience and is recognized for it. She hasn't leaned into sexuality at all really, and when she does, it'll be an event because of the buildup to that.

 

[Waldo Geraldo Faldo]

Trying too hard like Tinashe smh ..

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[IIVI]

It goes beyond this to be honest

Another big issue, since you brought up Normani, is Chloe and Normani will always fail to their expectations and it's partly not their fault. People keep trying to crown the next big thing and that ain't really how shyt works anymore

Because they have these lofty expectations fans and the labels are putting all this grandiose shyt on their shoulders that they can't handle the weight of

There's a lot of unaddressed issues regarding the social media age and how fast we run through cycles without awareness. People don't realize how comparisons kill these artists. The windows of comparison are getting smaller and smaller and it's a net negative for the parties being compared.

When Beyonce was getting compared to Tina Turner Tina was already what? In her 60s? There's a whole gap of mysticism attached to a comparison like that. Compare that to Chloe and Normani being pushed as new Beyonce's. Beyonce is still relevant, still extremely active. That leaves no mystique for the newer artists because we can see all the ways you'll never be like Beyonce right in front of us, and now you're fukked

And this is not just a music issue, I'm seeing it in movies and television too. Latching onto the past to try to ride the coattails of nostalgia into superstardom, and once that quick nostalgia buzz wears off you're right back in obscurity because you were cosplaying

This is why it's vital to try and "be different" and why you have people swinging in opposite directions experimenting.

The big issue however, really, is "what else is there"? Being very honest, I think we've seen the majority of it already.

There's only so many low and high frequencies frequencies on the audio spectrum.

There really is only so much you can do musically that sounds good and the output of music content today is insane.

A.I only going to make that number more stacked.

People are trying different things all the time, but for the most part it's still the same if you want it to sound good. That's the bottleneck. Put that note in a different place and while it may be different, you've killed the dance floor.

As a beatmaker myself I'll tell you straight up, people still use the same VST's from a few years ago and many people still use the same hardware instruments they've been using for decades now like the DX-7, Jupiters, etc. to get that sound they want.

Then of course when one person does something slightly different that sounds good, in come thousands of more artists and producers copying it and flooding the market.

Music is really in a tough spot right now and there's a lot of apathy towards it.

 

[315]

"Have you ever wondered... who else your man is fukking?"

 

[O.Red]

This is why it's vital to try and "be different" and why you have people swinging in opposite directions experimenting.

The big issue however, really, is "what else is there"? Being very honest, I think we've seen the majority of it already.

There's only so many low and high frequencies frequencies on the audio spectrum.

There really is only so much you can do musically that sounds good and the output of music content today is insane.

A.I only going to make that number more stacked.

People are trying different things all the time, but for the most part it's still the same if you want it to sound good. That's the bottleneck.

As a beatmaker myself I'll tell you straight up, people still use the same VST's from a few years ago and many people still use the same hardware instruments they've been using for decades now like the DX-7, Jupiters, etc. to get that sound they want.

Then of course when one person does something slightly different that sounds good, in come thousands of more artists and producers copying it and flooding the market.

Music is really in a tough spot right now and there's a lot of apathy towards it.

AI music is not gonna be what people think it is but damn I don't feel like typing out why

 

[IIVI]

AI music is not gonna be what people think it is but damn I don't feel like typing out why

Maybe not full-on A.I artists dominating the charts, but A.I tools are already making the output of musical content fly. It'll be a big factor in one way or another (already is tbh).

Producers can already click a button, generate a beat with some melodies and change a few notes or instruments around, move some FX parameters and they got something already.

 

[OneManGang]

Summer, SZA, Ari etc make good music and have hits and radio play. This girl does not. End of.

 

[Mass]

The cookie cutter mentality definitely doesn't help, but I honestly don't know if it's all super driven by hits, you can gain compound interest if you're just consistent and not putting too many eggs into one basket. If I reworked her strategy I'd cut the big budget features and just release 3/4 short projects in a year and see if she can gain more of a core fanbase like weeknd did coming up

Exactly

 

[Sad Bunny]

“At some point the fans have to sense some authenticity & realness from you”

@Matt504

 

[dangerranger]

Ari Lennox, Ella Mai and H.E.R. are finding success and not on some super toxic ratchet shyt.

They are finding moderate success. But they will always be middle of the pack. Not the top as superstars. Bc of the Beyonce co-sign and the exposure, there is a certain expectation for Chloe to be at the top with that level of backing. But it’s not happening and that’s why their is a focus on Chloe not fulfilling the “potential” that might have been seen with her.

 

[SNG]

Honestly her last album with her sister wasn’t that bad. I don’t know why she strayed from that formula and went full thot. I don’t understand with black women in music why they all gotta use the same formula. Only one that really stands out is Sza and alot of times she sings similar shyt but atleast she will go left field with it.

 

[Jaguar93]

She and her sister HAVE a fan base. It's preteen girls and Disney but Chloe doesn't want that lane and really neither does her sister cuz she's thotting too BUT she's smart enough to take the opportunities presented to her.

Her fan base grew up, and was the same ones. That was cheering her on when she was. Throwing ass on stage, and in TikTok challenges. People begged for this content. And now is surprised at what they gotten.