Breh said we would be a permanent underclass by 2015. Was/is he right?

[Who Not How]

Honestly, I think america is a lost cause for black folks. Yes, it’s still probably one of the top 5 countries where we can prosper, but we have so much trash in our community working against us in one direction plus the forces of oppression from crackers coming from the other…..how can you even get a foothold? Y’all gotta got get this reparations/equality bullshyt outta here cause it ain’t happening on this soil. Last thing any cac wants is for y’all to have power. I can’t believe some of y’all still don’t see this. Something needs to be started afresh in a new land with STRICT moral codes and profitable natural resources for black people that want to move forward.

I'll never count us out because that spirit within us is strong. We just have to get our minds back. They deleted everything we knew about our original selves 400 years ago and we are still coming up with new labels to call ourselves today. We are in a battle for our minds.

It feels like the 08 recession hurt the spirit of Black America deeply. A lot of brothas and sistas lost their homes, many people never fully recovered. We are just getting in where we fit in right now. The energy of the 90s and 00s was way different, there was still that sense of a community fighting against the world. That strong Black American spirit before 2010 is low right now.

 

[North of Death]

So you cant obtain higher end jobs, use the money to live in a stable neighborhood, send your child to college to get educated to obtain a high paying job as well? Most people who are in middle to upper middle class do not control the "means of production" but do just fine without it.

Middle/upper class isn't generational wealth

 

[TheGreatMTB]

Can't say he's completely wrong or right.

Dr. Bobby Wright was a prominent African American psychologist and author who wrote extensively about the impact of racism on the black community. His book "The Psychopathic Racial Personality and Other Essays" includes an essay titled "Mentacide: The Ultimate Threat to the Black Race" which outlines his views on the psychological and cultural destruction of the black community. Here are 10 key points from his essay:

1. Mentacide is the deliberate and systematic destruction of the black psyche and culture through the use of various forms of psychological manipulation, including misinformation, brainwashing, and social conditioning.
2. The ultimate goal of mentacide is to create a self-hating, self-destructive black population that is unable to resist the oppressive forces of racism and white supremacy.
3. Mentacide is perpetuated by a variety of institutions and systems, including the education system, the media, the criminal justice system, and the political establishment.
4. The impact of mentacide is evident in the high rates of mental illness, substance abuse, and crime within the black community.
5. Mentacide is not a new phenomenon, but has been used as a tool of oppression against black people for centuries, dating back to the era of slavery.
6. The perpetuation of mentacide is aided by the fact that many black people are not aware of the extent to which they have been psychologically manipulated, and may even perpetuate the cycle themselves through internalized racism.
7. To combat mentacide, black people must become conscious of the ways in which they have been psychologically manipulated and work to reclaim their cultural identity and sense of self-worth.
8. This process of self-awareness and resistance to mentacide must also involve an understanding of the ways in which racism and white supremacy operate in society and a commitment to dismantling these systems.
9. The struggle against mentacide must be an ongoing one, as the forces of oppression will continue to evolve and adapt to changing circumstances.
10. Ultimately, the fight against mentacide requires a collective effort from the entire black community, as well as allies from other communities, in order to build a society that is truly just and equitable for all.

You can see some of this in dating habits and also black YouTubers who talk about relationships. Whether incels or divesters....a lot of them specifically hate black people of the other sex but swear the other races are better. With the internet, a lot of these opinions are probably being planted in our spaces to take advantage of the insecure and weak.

I have to admit, it's alarming how gullible some people are.

It's a complex issue because not only is the US racist, it's also classist...which impacts the communities ability to come together and grow around resources. I wouldn't take a defeatist mindset and say we're fukked, but there are a lot of hurdles we'd have to clear as a community to advance.

On the positive news, higher enrollment of black men and women in university should help.

 

[num123]

Middle/upper class isn't generational wealth

How not? If you can acquire assets (homes, stocks, bonds) that can be passed down, is that not generational wealth? The metric should not be whether you have enough money to allow the next 3-4 generations of your family not to work, but to allow the next generations not to start from the beginning.

 

[Who Not How]

Can't say he's completely wrong or right.


You can see some of this in dating habits and also black YouTubers who talk about relationships. Whether incels or divesters....a lot of them specifically hate black people of the other sex but swear the other races are better. With the internet, a lot of these opinions are probably being planted in our spaces to take advantage of the insecure and weak.

I have to admit, it's alarming how gullible some people are.

It's a complex issue because not only is the US racist, it's also classist...which impacts the communities ability to come together and grow around resources. I wouldn't take a defeatist mindset and say we're fukked, but there are a lot of hurdles we'd have to clear as a community to advance.

On the positive news, higher enrollment of black men and women in university should help.

To touch on your class point, Dr. Bobby E Wright suggested we need our own value system. Right now, we are living by what White America says is valuable.

There was a poster on here boasting about living in an all White community as the only brotha. I understand the safety aspect and wanting to live well off but to brag about it and pointing out that you are surrounded by White people just shows you what success is to him.

Many of our women don't think we are valuable because we don't have everything White men have and many brothas see White women as the closest thing they can get to "White privilege". It's a mental thing and social media is spreading the propaganda to our youth. Our mentally fragile are falling for it hook and sinker and they don't even know they are falling deeper into self hatred.

 

[North of Death]

How not? If you can acquire assets (homes, stocks, bonds) that can be passed down, is that not generational wealth? The metric should not be whether you have enough money to allow the next 3-4 generations of your family not to work, but to allow the next generations not to start from the beginning.

If your Black and not wealthy you will always start from the bottom position

 

[num123]

If your Black and not wealthy you will always start from the bottom position

Okay, you have to be trolling right now.

 

[Who Not How]

How not? If you can acquire assets (homes, stocks, bonds) that can be passed down, is that not generational wealth? The metric should not be whether you have enough money to allow the next 3-4 generations of your family not to work, but to allow the next generations not to start from the beginning.

I think we all should be working to have enough money that our grandchildren are good while we are still alive. I understand having things to pass on when you die but it's even better if you can pass on things while you are still here.

 

[North of Death]

Okay, you have to be trolling right now.

Stats say otherwise...For example, look up the lifetime earnings of an African American with a 4 year degree compared to a cracker with no degree..virtually the same

 

[KGlock]

The plight of folk in America is depressing but all this was designed. As I've stated numerous times, cac supremacy is a tool that was meticulously curated to keep folk at the bottom for as long as they can. They dotted their I's and crossed their T's making sure U.S transforms similar to Brazil.
Diaspora war enthusiasts ain't gon like this statement but our biggest ally is the ever growing population in Africa. By 2050, a quarter of the world’s people will be African – this will shape our future | Edward Paice

Cacs did EVEEERYTHING in their power to make sure black folk in the states remain powerless minorities as their birth rates plummet and slowly go extinct. Hispanics and Asians have and will continue to reproduce like rabbits and slowly have monopoly over the wealth and high positions of black folk as cacs die out and our population stagnates.

That boom in Africa if and only if some of those leaders have balls like the Uganda president and get tired of being west pawns, group together and actually control their valuables/resources and exports. There's power in number and 1/4 people being black in the world can reap similar benefits like how China went from desolation to being a top 2 economy in <100 years with mass manufacturing. Again some gone wanna deny any involvement from the motherland in helping the race propel in wealth/status but with a projected net worth of 0 in U S. by 2050 we clearly need to wake up fast, band together before we ARE the permanent underclass. It's not actually too late and we'd need to be making the groundwork now. Unfortunately the best issue among us has always been staying on code. Until we move like them Asians/Hispanics the future will be bleak for our descendants.

 

[num123]

I think we all should be working to have enough money that our grandchildren are good while we are still alive. I understand having things to pass on when you die but it's even better if you can pass on things while you are still here.

That is cool and all but at the very least leave assets and not debt. Anything else is extra.

 

[num123]

Stats say otherwise...For example, look up the lifetime earnings of an African American with a 4 year degree compared to a cracker with no degree..virtually the same

Is there a breakdown of what degrees are being obtained?

 

[North of Death]

Is there a breakdown of what degrees are being obtained?

It doesn't matter the 4 year degree that the Black man has...A cracker will earn more over his lifetime with less credentials

 

[CoryMack]

i don't take hyperbole serious. like i said if you believe those words then you have already given up because what's the point? you are fighting to prove that we have lost eternally? what do you gain in taking that acceptance seriously? misery, disillusionment. nothing worthwhile. do you tho.

At the end of the day all these people are just human, great as they may be and insightful as they can be. They don't know everything so no his conclusion was pessimism and "taking it seriously" means accepting defeat.

Once again it doesn’t matter whether you take the facts seriously or not. If I were to ask you what concrete information are you basing your conclusions on you wouldn’t have any. You haven’t done any of the studying nor do you have any of the real world experience that man does.

And looking at the situation realistically and not through the facade of hopes, dreams and empty rhetoric, it is basically over for us as a collective. That’s what permanent underclass means: forever at the bottom of society. It would take something cataclysmic to happen to the white power structure for us to collectively have a real shot at improving our situation globally. And that’s if we were unified and halfway organized, which we are not.

 

[ORDER_66]

There are only two politically viable parties in this country, the Democrats and Republicans. You said black people vote blindly for the democrats and do not expect tangibles, so what other party is there to vote for? You said nothing about "both sides", only Democrats. Nothing about hate for either party. Even if you did pull the "no voting before tangibles" card, that still is not a solution either.

How about creating our own third party..?!? locally instead of you keep bringing up republicans wheres your solution stop asking ME and propose some here for the rest of the board!!!