Briahana Joy Gray: The Democratic Party isn't just ignorant, they're immoral-- Marc Lamont Hill interview

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Never said that
well what are you saying?

I get the coli consensus the Democrats failed to deliver (something that the coli can´t name ) but they failed to deliver the unnamed thing that the Coli wants.

donnie who doesnt do what you want is admirable because he doesn´t do what the coli wants.
 

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Your definition of moral and hers are different. Do not try to tell someone else what their barometer for morality should be. You can be immoral and do good things. A lot of drug dealers did good drives in their communities. You guys just struggle with anyone criticizing Democrats because they’re like your favorite team. What you don’t get is a lot of us - including a registered Dem like me - grew up in places where Democrats had full control so it’s nothing for us to tell the difference between a bad one and a good one. You’re nothing but “concern trolling” without offering a single concrete thing. “This is how we get Trump” is some pitiful non-political shyt. It means nothing and says nothing about your values. There are more people who give a fukk about their bills than people who hate Trump - the past decade should have told you that.

And you get Trump when people stay home - now ask yourself - why would that be an effective strategy if people actually knew and felt what Dems were doing? Biden was a good president on a lot of economic issues but they weren’t things that immediately made a difference to many people. Trump is underwater because of costs right now too. Grow a fukking backbone. So let me be clear so you can miss be with that typical party line - I am straight up progressive and there’s nothing both sides or false equivalence about me. I criticize Dems because they’re “our side” and “our side” needs to quit the bullshyt.
Please name something that the democrats could do that would make you happy.
 

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As in trans athletes in traditional sports? Nah. Trans-athletes should play amongst themselves.

But i dont get how your questions relates
Here´s the deal the Democrats have a broad political platform and sometimes they table something that´s unpopular but it´s on the long term ajenda

like Gun control that´s unpopular but the democrats support it.

The basic program of the democrats is to make things better for poor people but increasing social services through graduated income taxes.

The reason why they just had a fight over healthcare is that even Colombia has a subsidized health care plan. The Republicans have been able to stop something including health care by telling white people That Black People will benefit too.

I´ll grant you that so called #bothsiders don´t support donnie But they do support him denying social services for migrants who qualify.

Same thing for all woke/DEI programs Democrats are generally in favor and since Bri and Marc are radical Democrats they support trans right to participate in Gender affirming activities like Trehs being on women´s teams.
 

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Please name something that the democrats could do that would make you happy.
Raise the national minimum wage, which hasn’t happened since 2009. Pass national paid parental leave. Universal pre-K. Expand the courts so republicans can’t shoot down anything progressive that they do such as eliminating student debt. These are all fundamental things in most of the modern world.
 

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Raise the national minimum wage, which hasn’t happened since 2009. Pass national paid parental leave. Universal pre-K. Expand the courts so republicans can’t shoot down anything progressive that they do such as eliminating student debt.
Thanks for answering. That shyt is gonna be hella expensive.

I get it you want a Democratic donnie to force this shyt through.
 

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I will say this I almost never hear someone criticize the democrats because they don´t like their policies people criticize them for failing to deliver on said policies.

To that I say that the Constitution was designed to stop a simple majority from doing whatever they wanted so it´d be hard to legally do something if even a minority was against it.
 

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I will say this I almost never hear someone criticize the democrats because they don´t like their policies people criticize them for failing to deliver on said policies.

To that I say that the Constitution was designed to stop a simple majority from doing whatever they wanted so it´d be hard to legally do something if even a minority was against it.
The Democrats have had both chambers under both Biden and Obama and didn’t deliver as big as they could’ve. They also didn’t prioritize the courts. They simply lack strategy and a coherent plan because Democrats aren’t a party. They a coalition of people opposed to Republicans. What gets prioritized is shyt the donors can accept. That’s why they grew sour on Biden. He went in there and appointed a bunch of Warren surrogates that used the federal government to do what they couldn’t pass through Congress. That is why the Supreme Court overturned 40 years of precedent in deferring to agency interpretation when the law itself is silent. Democrats often use that ambiguity to legislate in the absence of a specific law. That’s what not caring about the courts gets you. Republicans systematically govern with the intent to eliminate any leverage democrats have. Old ass Dems don’t have that mentality. That in and of itself is why they need to go.
 

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The Democrats have had both chambers under both Biden and Obama and didn’t deliver as big as they could’ve. They also didn’t prioritize the courts. They simply lack strategy and a coherent plan because Democrats aren’t a party. They a coalition of people opposed to Republicans. What gets prioritized is shyt the donors can accept. That’s why they grew sour on Biden. He went in there and appointed a bunch of Warren surrogates that used the federal government to do what they couldn’t pass through Congress. That is why the Supreme Court overturned 40 years of precedent in deferring to agency interpretation when the law itself is silent. Democrats often use that ambiguity to legislate in the absence of a specific law. That’s what not caring about the courts gets you. Republicans systematically govern with the intent to eliminate any leverage democrats have. Old ass Dems don’t have that mentality. That in and of itself is why they need to go.
Ok so they play by the rules and the GOP doesn´t I get what you´re saying and lessons will be learned but I´m a proponent of the rule of law.

I mean if the Dems get in and pack the court like Rooselvelt threatened to do then the republicans will do the same when they are selected and soon bye bye Republic.
 
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