Bron Ball: The worst offense of all time?

[ELESDEE616]

This is literally the stupidest argument on earth because you could say this for just about any championship team.

What’re the Warriors without their big 4 and Steve Kerr’s system? Would Curry even be a household name with Mark Jackson still coaching? You really think Kerr’s system is anything short of a joke without having the literal 2 greatest shooters of all time? Plus a K fukking D to boot? Adoption of their style is why we’ve seen monstrosities of games where teams go 0-26 from 3 (cough Boston and Houston) for stretches of time because they don’t have the personnel.

You’re the most intellectually dishonest dude on this board but you’re too much of a homer to see that.

body bags

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Yes, he bodied bagged his own argument. Quite ironic.

 

[360Waves]

And you slow on purpose or?

This is what you said -

Youre asking me if I’m slow?

Dawg the Warriors have been stopping the CAVS from winning titles. You’re trying to discredit “Bron Ball” by stating that it’s simply a product of Miami’s big 3 but Bron literally would’ve been steamrolling the league with championships on Cleveland—follow me here dumbass, Cleveland NOT Miami—IF NOT for GS.

Is it because GS system is “so much better?” Only if you’re a homer. 2015 the Cavs were completely injured and they still pushed it to 6. 2016 it was Mano y Mano and “Bron Ball” won. Then they added KD while the Cavs got worse. Which, at that point it has nothing to do with a “system” but simply having an overwhelming amount of talent. Kind of like with Miami.

So we discredit Brons system when he has overwhelming talent like on Miami but credit Curry’s when he also has overwhelming talent? Sounds like someone’s doing that “cherry picking” shyt you love to talk about.

So in the end what the fukk is your argument? That talent wins championships? No shyt you ignoramus

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@360Waves - "if you take the Warriors out of the equation, "Bron Ball" would have 5-6 rings"

Yet when a poster uses a scenario with the same parameters - "Take the Heat Big Three out of the equation, and how many rings would "Bron Ball" likely have?", @360Waves calls it "literally the stupidest argument on Earth because you could say this for just about any championship team."

When agendas go wrong.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Youre asking me if I’m slow?

Dawg the Warriors have been stopping the CAVS from winning titles. You’re trying to discredit “Bron Ball” by stating that it’s simply a product of Miami’s big 3 but Bron literally would’ve been steamrolling the league with championships on Cleveland—follow me here dumbass, Cleveland NOT Miami—IF NOT for GS.

How in the hell did you come to this conclusion after he left Cleveland because he couldn't win a title there? Are Wade, Bosh, Riley etc all packing up and moving to Cleveland in the summer of 2010?



Again, can you not see in the error of your ways by taking a team out of the "equation" to benefit LeBron's title chances, but not acknowledging that someone can easily say, well if you're going to take away something to benefit LeBron, why can't we take away something to put him at a disadvantage?

You're such a LeBron dikkrider that you're viewing this through a lens where all the advantages are in his favor to push an agenda. But when someone flips that on you, by using your own logic, you call it the "stupidest argument on Earth".

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Call your own shyt "the stupidest argument on Earth" and don't even realize it, brehs.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

2015 the Cavs were completely injured and they still pushed it to 6. 2016 it was Mano y Mano and “Bron Ball” won. Then they added KD while the Cavs got worse. Which, at that point it has nothing to do with a “system” but simply having an overwhelming amount of talent. Kind of like with Miami.

Only an insufferable LeBron stan could frame it like this.

 

[360Waves]

How in the hell did you come to this conclusion after he left Cleveland because he couldn't win a title there? Are Wade, Bosh, Riley etc all packing up and moving to Cleveland in the summer of 2010?

You popped too many Ritalins got you unable to read straight you stupid ass nikka I’m talking about his second stint. You know, the one that has berthed 4 straight Finals trips.

The claim is that “Bron Ball” is a horrible offense and “easy to figure out” but it took 4 all stars consisting of 3 future HOFers, 2 MVPs, the DPOY, the 2 best scorers in the league and the 2 greatest shooters of all time to stop it from ripping off what would be it’s 4th straight title right now, on top of crazy circumstances like injuries. Seems to be a lot of respect shown for a “terrible system”.

You’re trying to argue that Bron Ball is only successful because of the Heat Big 3 but we have literally seen LeBron make it to the finals with several different rosters all ranging vastly in skill level. You don’t make it 8 straight years with a broke system you remedial ass nikka

 

[360Waves]

And @Gil Scott-Heroin you’re scrambling in here off your meds double and triple posting because you know you got body bagged and you’re trying to save face. Like the nikka who got washed in the fight and keeps desperately reminding people about how he got those 2 decent jabs in to make the sonning look any less worse. Ole lemme have the last word ass nikka

 

[Everythingg]

I gave you a chance to come up with an intelligent reply, I'm just gonna neg you and Kim.

Typical stan behavior

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You popped too many Ritalins got you unable to read straight you stupid ass nikka I’m talking about his second stint. You know, the one that has berthed 4 straight Finals trips.

The claim is that “Bron Ball” is a horrible offense and “easy to figure out” but it took 4 all stars consisting of 3 future HOFers, 2 MVPs, the DPOY, the 2 best scorers in the league and the 2 greatest shooters of all time to stop it from ripping off what would be it’s 4th straight title right now, on top of crazy circumstances like injuries. Seems to be a lot of respect shown for a “terrible system”.

This is a nonsensical way of looking at it because if it wasn't GS coming out of the West, it would be another team - another team that would beat the Cavs. In fact, past the fact of the Warriors' misfortunes (after going up 3-1) with injuries to Iggy and Bogut, Curry's deteriorating state, and Draymond's suspension where they would've won had all things been equal, the Thunder would've beaten the Cavs in the '16 Finals. Pretty much all of those Finals trips would've resulted in losses for LeBron/Cavs if the Warriors didn't exist.

Where are you getting this notion of "respect", LeBron and his teams have run through the East due to the lack of competition, do you think they're going to four straight Finals appearances in the West? Of course, not.

Second of all, it seems to be YOU who's popped too many Ritalin, your initial claim was:

"If you take the Warriors out of the equation, "Bron Ball" would have 5-6 rings"

Now how the fukk is 5-6 rings possible when now you're saying you're talking about his second-stint - "that one that has berthed 4 straight Finals trips", after we're working on the stipulation that the Miami Big Three were out of the equation.

You can't even get your own argument right.

You’re trying to argue that Bron Ball is only successful because of the Heat Big 3 but we have literally seen LeBron make it to the finals with several different rosters all ranging vastly in skill level. You don’t make it 8 straight years with a broke system you remedial ass nikka

Would he make it "8 straight years" in the West? If your answer is no, then why are you hanging your hat on Finals appearances as if they're the scale of how successful a "system" is? Like I said above, LeBron and his teams have had success in the East, because the lack of competition, the luck they've had, and how dominant of a player he is (in comparison to his peers) - not because of the system.

Because there is no system.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And @Gil Scott-Heroin you’re scrambling in here off your meds double and triple posting because you know you got body bagged and you’re trying to save face. Like the nikka who got washed in the fight and keeps desperately reminding people about how he got those 2 decent jabs in to make the sonning look any less worse. Ole lemme have the last word ass nikka

Are you this corny IRL? Or is it just an act for this board? Either way shyt is embarrassing.

 

[Drip Bayless]

We covered this already
Allow George Hill to be your playmaker brehs

 

[THE MACHINE]

Some numbers from the last 8 years, assuming "Bron Ball" started in Miami
Cleveland:
2017-2018 PPG 5th 110.9 adjusted FG% 3rd - assists/game 11th
2016-2017 PPG 4th 110.3 adjusted FG% 2nd- assists/game 13th
2015-2016 PPG 8th 105.3 adjusted FG% 3rd - assists/game 13th
2014-2015 PPG 8th 103.1 adjusted FG% 4th - assists/game 10th
Miami:
2013-2014 PPG 12th 102.2 adjusted FG% 1st - assists/game 11th
2012-2013 PPG 5th 102.9 adjusted FG% 1st - assists/game 7th
2011-2012 PPG 7th 98.5 adjusted FG% 5th - assists/game T20th
2010-2011 PPG 8th 102.1 adjusted FG% 4th - assists/game T26th

Adjusted Field Goal % = points accrued per field goal attempt, thereby underscoring which players are helping and hurting from behind the arc. EX: If Shaquille O'Neal makes 3 of 5 field goal attempts, all 2-pointers, for six points, his ADJ FG% (six points on five attempts) is .600. Meanwhile, if Ray Allen is 2-for-5 shooting, but both field goals are 3-pointers, his ADJ FG% (six points on five attempts) is also .600.

 

[Hey_zeus]

Is there a clear definition of what constitutes Bron Ball?