Notorious 1 E.Y.E.
Superstar
bobby lashly, mvp, s dot, hark henry
kofi could of been upper mid lower main
kofi could of been upper mid lower main
Brothas can we talk?
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Bobby Lashleys eyebrows
Superstar
What do y'all think about Jason Jordan? What can he do to improve?
Golayitdown
Veteran
Keep wrestling like he is to get his inevitable main event run (and stay in Vince's good graces), but study some greats to make sure he can hold his own on the mic in promos when he gets the green light push.
Willy Waffle
Willy Da Waffleman
all them others are cool but they dropped the ball on t-truth. don't care what anyone says, that was the one!
I'll speak as a black fan that lost interest in the mid-2000s and didn't go back until CM Punk's rise:
Shelton, Lashley and MVP all bored the shyt out of me. I know you younger guys who grew up with them feel different but honestly every member of the Nation was more interesting than those guys, IMO. Shelton could go in the ring but had the personality of store-brand toilet paper, MVP never came off as larger than life the way he or WWE would have you believe, and Lashley was just stiff and unready.
Hell, I even like Kofi, but he was never gonna be a legit star doing that fake Jamaican shyt they had him doing. The ceiling on a gimmick like that is the IC title scene.
R-Truth has always been ridiculous. He wears airbrushed jeans. Stop.
Honestly, Mark Henry's Hall of Pain run is the only truly missed opportunity IMO. Going back and watching those promos and matches, Mark was a star and it's a shame it took WWE so long to stop putting one of their most truly intimidating talents in comedy angles with trannies and old ladies. Even when he was filming silly bits with Chyna and D-LO he always seemed like someone who would whoop some ass. He was more believable holding the Big Gold Belt in his hand than any of those other guys would have been and should've gotten the WWE title at least once. The only black star since Booker to actually seem believable as a threat against anyone on the roster.
As for current guys, Big E might be the closest but the comedy would need to be scaled back for some viciousness from time to time. The Rock had his silly shyt only after being a complete p.o.s. in the Nation so fans already thought of him as a dude who'll wreck shyt (got brought into the Nation and then jumped Farooq out his own gang, beat Foley within an inch of his life, etc.). Apollo and Jason Jordan ain't shown enough yet but both are a looooooong way away. That Crawford dude from NXT that's piping Binky looks like he might have a little late 90s-Rock swag but he's years away, too. Patrick Clark is never holding a major title as a Prince impersonator.
When it comes to this main event shyt, I just don't buy it from most guys. Never bought it from Del Rio, Swagger or Sheamus, so it's not a size thing either. Some people just have that star thing about them and even when you do, your look, your promos, your character all have to be perfect.
Shelton, Lashley and MVP all bored the shyt out of me. I know you younger guys who grew up with them feel different but honestly every member of the Nation was more interesting than those guys, IMO. Shelton could go in the ring but had the personality of store-brand toilet paper, MVP never came off as larger than life the way he or WWE would have you believe, and Lashley was just stiff and unready.
Hell, I even like Kofi, but he was never gonna be a legit star doing that fake Jamaican shyt they had him doing. The ceiling on a gimmick like that is the IC title scene.
R-Truth has always been ridiculous. He wears airbrushed jeans. Stop.
Honestly, Mark Henry's Hall of Pain run is the only truly missed opportunity IMO. Going back and watching those promos and matches, Mark was a star and it's a shame it took WWE so long to stop putting one of their most truly intimidating talents in comedy angles with trannies and old ladies. Even when he was filming silly bits with Chyna and D-LO he always seemed like someone who would whoop some ass. He was more believable holding the Big Gold Belt in his hand than any of those other guys would have been and should've gotten the WWE title at least once. The only black star since Booker to actually seem believable as a threat against anyone on the roster.
As for current guys, Big E might be the closest but the comedy would need to be scaled back for some viciousness from time to time. The Rock had his silly shyt only after being a complete p.o.s. in the Nation so fans already thought of him as a dude who'll wreck shyt (got brought into the Nation and then jumped Farooq out his own gang, beat Foley within an inch of his life, etc.). Apollo and Jason Jordan ain't shown enough yet but both are a looooooong way away. That Crawford dude from NXT that's piping Binky looks like he might have a little late 90s-Rock swag but he's years away, too. Patrick Clark is never holding a major title as a Prince impersonator.
When it comes to this main event shyt, I just don't buy it from most guys. Never bought it from Del Rio, Swagger or Sheamus, so it's not a size thing either. Some people just have that star thing about them and even when you do, your look, your promos, your character all have to be perfect.
Nero Christ
Sniper out now on all digital platforms brev
out of the current guys, I see a lot of potential in Big E/Xavier turning on Kofi and becoming the monster heel/manager duo. If it is true Kofi would retire when ND ends, have E do it and do it brutally, then a run through the mid card culminating in a main even feud with Seth, and a world title run afterwards.
I think too cold scorpio was wasted, he never got a good singles run in WCW or WWF. He had a great moveset, but you know why he never got a big push 
As big as Booker T was, I get the feeling he should have been bigger. They made him look bad in those feuds with SCSA and HHH. But we know why
I really think Lashley and Big E have/had world title potential. But Lashley couldn't talk and no one cared enough to book around that, and Big E looks a bit chubby. I think if New Day turn heel and get singles pushes Big E can get the world title. But a New Day heel run is a long time from now.
As big as Booker T was, I get the feeling he should have been bigger. They made him look bad in those feuds with SCSA and HHH. But we know why
I really think Lashley and Big E have/had world title potential. But Lashley couldn't talk and no one cared enough to book around that, and Big E looks a bit chubby. I think if New Day turn heel and get singles pushes Big E can get the world title. But a New Day heel run is a long time from now.
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
I think too cold scorpio was wasted, he never got a good singles run in WCW or WWF. He had a great moveset, but you know why he never got a big push
As big as Booker T was, I get the feeling he should have been bigger. They made him look bad in those feuds with SCSA and HHH. But we know why
I really think Lashley and Big E have/had world title potential. But Lashley couldn't talk and no one cared enough to book around that, and Big E looks a bit chubby. I think if New Day turn heel and get singles pushes Big E can get the world title. But a New Day heel run is a long time from now.
Feel the same about Booker T even though he did accomplish a hell of a lot in his entire career, but it's crazy that just from having the WCW "stench" on him, he had to be broken down before being built back up. He started from Stone Cold and Rock, then went to midcard Edge and Big Show, then back up to HHH, with the fans dying for him to win, got his killed, then spent 3 years in the mid-card feuding with Christian, pre-Silverback/Hall of Pain Mark Henry, teaming with Goldust, I think RVD, and helping/baby-sitting Cena before finally getting to the King Booker era.
TransJenner
Banned
MVP could've been WWE champ
the_FUTURE
Superstar
And now he's proven that he can talk and be entertaining on the mic in promos too.
The out of nowhere blast of entertainment Kofi and Big E brought out once they formed New Day with Woods was crazy, especially with Kofi. It's like the happy go lucky face just wasn't who he was. Same with BigE being all super serious all the time. You could definitely see something hidden in Big E when he was hanging around AJ Lee and Ziggler on some off came stuff. WWE has some insane restrictions when the stars is crazy
the_FUTURE
Superstar
There was that one PPV not sure if it was Survivor Series or Bragging Rights or whatever, but the dude got eliminated first in his home town. I knew it was a wrap for him then, must have been MAD fed up after that one. Crowd booed the shyt out of it too.
