BYD releases battery that fully charges in 5 minutes with a range of 300 miles. Tesla’s newest battery was 4 years ago. Edit: Goes on sale next month.

[IIVI]

I literally don't give 2 shyts about anything you said. I SAID, I wish they were sold here. I look out for me and mine. Auto manufacturers closing ain't my problem. Should have lowered them prices...

Yup, it really goes to show how messed up the situation is.

You can’t blame the consumer and can’t blame China.

This is the country’s problem not being prepared and doubling down on dumb. That’s who you should be taking frustrations out on.

What have these automakers done for me that I haven’t paid for and have they been working honestly? They haven’t been taking advantage of employees either? Every dollar has been spent fairly?

I’ve been a Ford person my whole life. I know they’d lay employees off the second competition starts wiping them rather than step down from leadership after years of bad decisions.

The top of the line Ford F-150 is now around $100k without tariffs yet. I’m supposed to feel bad for wanting a $10k electric car?

 

[the artist known az]

You see commercials for them in Europe all the time

 

[Bushmaster69]

Canada is part of the program, why y’all acting like these other countries is innocent and America doing them bogus, Canada and majority of Europe been co-signing the bullshyt

If certain Europeans had it they way not only would folks still be trying to exploit africa(they place u trying to escape too), we would’ve already been in ww3

America is about to get fukked up economically l, they don’t have the money to be the policeman of the world no more or give white countries sweet heart deals on goods, everybody got to pay they fair share

Classic american hubris. Always overestimating your importance. Y'all really think the world can't survive without you at the centre.

 

[Bushmaster69]

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[B86]

Yup, it really goes to show how messed up the situation is.

You can’t blame the consumer and can’t blame China.

This is the country’s problem not being prepared and doubling down on dumb. That’s who you should be taking frustrations out on.

What have these automakers done for me that I haven’t paid for and have they been working honestly?

All of this here...

 

[Gritsngravy]

Classic american hubris. Always overatating your importance. Y'all really think the world can't survive without you at the centre.

Ok I see you just playing dumb or just seeking attention

 

[Bushmaster69]

Ok I see you just playing dumb or just seeking attention

Neither goofy.

You're the one making stupid comments, and lacking comprehension skills, so you go the response you deserved.

I said what i said.

 

[B86]

@Pull Up the Roots we were having a very normal conversation. I just replied to let you know that nothing you talked about has any meaning to me, though everything you said were valid points. It was not a personal shot at you.

I really mean that my only concerns in this world are me and my family. None of us work in the auto manufacturing business so it would have no bearing on anything in my life if they all closed down and get replaced by Chinese manufacturers. All I care about is cheaper prices (as long as the quality is there too). And if you think the rest of the country doesn't feel the same way in general about only wanting cheaper prices, see TEMU and SHEIN. We will all shop Chinese if it is cheaper

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Yup, it really goes to show how messed up the situation is.

You can’t blame the consumer and can’t blame China.

This is the country’s problem not being prepared and doubling down on dumb. That’s who you should be taking frustrations out on.

What have these automakers done for me that I haven’t paid for and have they been working honestly? They haven’t been taking advantage of employees either? Every dollar has been spent fairly?

I literally don't give 2 shyts about anything you said. I SAID, I wish they were sold here. I look out for me and mine. Auto manufacturers closing ain't my problem. Should have lowered them prices...

So let me get this straight, you think automakers are greedy and exploitative, but you're totally fine with a foreign government rigging the market with massive subsidies, forced labor, and overproduction to kill competition? You claim this isn't China’s fault, but who do you think is engineering this entire play?

If you're mad about high prices, be mad at US trade policy that let American manufacturing rot, but don't pretend letting China flood the market fixes anything long-term. They're not giving you $10k EVs out of kindness. It's a strategy to dominate, and once other industries collapse, they will own the market and dictate prices. Do you think they'll keep them cheap forever?

Also, if you think US companies treat workers poorly, why celebrate shifting production to a country that uses literal slave labor? At least we can organize for strong unions and worker protections. With China? Zero. Labor advocacy is heavily suppressed. So if you actually care about how labor is treated, this shouldn't be an option.

 

[IIVI]

So let me get this straight, you think automakers are greedy and exploitative, but you're totally fine with a foreign government rigging the market with massive subsidies, forced labor, and overproduction to kill competition? You claim this isn't China’s fault, but who do you think is engineering this entire play?

If you're mad about high prices, be mad at US trade policy that let American manufacturing rot, but don't pretend letting China flood the market fixes anything long-term. They're not giving you $10k EVs out of kindness. It's a strategy to dominate, and once other industries collapse, they will own the market and dictate prices. Do you think they'll keep them cheap forever?

Also, if you think US companies treat workers poorly, why celebrate shifting production to a country that uses literal slave labor? At least we can organize for strong unions and worker protections. With China? Zero. Labor advocacy is heavily suppressed. So if you actually care about how labor is treated, this shouldn't be an option.

Cause it’s cheaper cars man.

That’s why. That’s all that matters to 99% of the people.

They both doing dirt, who cares.

You can give us 100 reasons and there are probably 100 reasons to counter back. However, at the end of the day if a car is still literally 5 times cheaper then most people can care less. That’s simply survival.

Most people will see two cars for $20k over 10 years vs two for $80k-$100k. That’s crazy.

Can you blame someone for wanting the first option?

If they start dominating and being unfair then a company may do to them what they did to other companies. Then people would support that if it’s still cheaper. That’s how it works.

 

[B86]

So let me get this straight, you think automakers are greedy and exploitative, but you're totally fine with a foreign government rigging the market with massive subsidies, forced labor, and overproduction to kill competition? You claim this isn't China’s fault, but who do you think is engineering this entire play?

If you're mad about high prices, be mad at US trade policy that let American manufacturing rot, but don't pretend letting China flood the market fixes anything long-term. They're not giving you $10k EVs out of kindness. It's a strategy to dominate, and once other industries collapse, they will own the market and dictate prices. Do you think they'll keep them cheap forever?

Also, if you think US companies treat workers poorly, why celebrate shifting production to a country that uses literal slave labor? At least we can organize for strong unions and worker protections. With China? Zero. Labor advocacy is heavily suppressed. So if you actually care about how labor is treated, this shouldn't be an option.

Again, nothing you said is wrong. But to answer your "let me get this straight" question...no, I can care less. I care about me and mine, for the third time...

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Cause it’s cheaper cars man.

That’s why. That’s all that matters to 99% of the people.

People used to say the same thing about steel, textiles, and electronics, until those industries were gone, wages stagnated, and whole communities never recovered. It's just hard for me to simply see it that way, especially living in Detroit and seeing the effects of industry collapse firsthand. Cheap cars don't mean much when the jobs that pay for them disappear, when entire towns get hollowed out, and when the only thing left are dollar stores and endless warehouses with low-wage, no-security jobs.

 

[Robbie3000]

So let me get this straight, you think automakers are greedy and exploitative, but you're totally fine with a foreign government rigging the market with massive subsidies, forced labor, and overproduction to kill competition? You claim this isn't China’s fault, but who do you think is engineering this entire play?

If you're mad about high prices, be mad at US trade policy that let American manufacturing rot, but don't pretend letting China flood the market fixes anything long-term. They're not giving you $10k EVs out of kindness. It's a strategy to dominate, and once other industries collapse, they will own the market and dictate prices. Do you think they'll keep them cheap forever?

Also, if you think US companies treat workers poorly, why celebrate shifting production to a country that uses literal slave labor? At least we can organize for strong unions and worker protections. With China? Zero. Labor advocacy is heavily suppressed. So if you actually care about how labor is treated, this shouldn't be an option.

China literally did not have an auto industry two decades ago. American auto makers sided with oils companies to kill EV innovation opening up a lane for China. China like always slowly and quietly ran with the opportunity.

Narrow special interests from the capital class hurt the country, the workers, the environment, our health etc., but we are supposed to feel bad for these companies who only care about shareholder interests at the expense of everything else.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I rode in a BYD yesterday and that shyt was ass BUT for the price that shyt makes sense for point A to Point B EV as cheap as possible.

 

[Fukwatutalkinwatisaylaw]

I got gap insurance once these go on sale I'm crashing my tesla (no injuries please Jesus) and getting one of these