Cam is a top 5 Rapper from last 15 years

[mobbinfms]

Ghost isn't btter than Cam at all. You nerds just love Wu Tang so much, you give Ghost a pass for the same shyt you want to take away from Killa for

They both use a lot a slang terms in their raps, only difference is Cam's makes way more sense if you're from the streets. Nothing Cam says is confusing if you actually just know East coast slang

The nerds go crazy for PH era Cam too...they really are similar in that they went through a phase where the raps became a bit abstract - difference is that Ghost killed it. Cam didn't. But to me, the corniness with Cam doesn't come from that - its moreso the rhyme style. He really relies on rhyming the same word to a highly predicable degree. That gets corny after a while. Multis for the sake of multis - corny after a while. Sometimes it works - sometimes it doesn't. And Cam never had production like Ghost.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

That was my impression after listening again after a very long time. What are the 5/5 songs to you? Most of the songs are blah. How do you justify Girls?

Girls was probably a result of being on Rocafella. He hasnt really pushed a song like that since. Thats the best I could do.

Down and Out 5/5
More Gangsta Music 4.75 or 5/5
Get Down 4/5
Leave Me Alone pt 2 4.5/5
Harlem Streets 4/5
Soap Opera 4.5/5
Bubble Music 4/5
Adrenaline 4.5/5

No need to review any more. That alone pushes it above a 3/3.5

 

[FreshAIG]

The nerds go crazy for PH era Cam too...they really are similar in that they went through a phase where the raps became a bit abstract - difference is that Ghost killed it. Cam didn't. But to me, the corniness with Cam doesn't come from that - its moreso the rhyme style. He really relies on rhyming the same word to a highly predicable degree. That gets corny after a while. Multis for the sake of multis - corny after a while. Sometimes it works - sometimes it doesn't. And Cam never had production like Ghost.

Give examples. And not generic examples that he never said, or lines from the same 2 singles people reference. Show me where he does this on albums consistently

And that's your opinion that Ghost killed it and Cam is corny. I completely disagree. I think they're both dope.

 

[mrken12]

Give examples. And not generic examples that he never said, or lines from the same 2 singles people reference. Show me where he does this on albums consistently

Why give examples when you'll just use the same excuse of "it went over your head"?

 

[mobbinfms]

Girls was probably a result of being on Rocafella. He hasnt really pushed a song like that since. Thats the best I could do.

Down and Out 5/5
More Gangsta Music 4.75 or 5/5
Get Down 4/5
Leave Me Alone pt 2 4.5/5
Harlem Streets 4/5
Soap Opera 4.5/5
Bubble Music 4/5
Adrenaline 4.5/5

No need to review any more. That alone pushes it above a 3/3.5

That's 8 out of 18 songs. Agree with More Gangsta Music and Down and Out.
Harlem Streets and Adrenaline - meh. Although Twista killed Adrenaline.

 

[mobbinfms]

Give examples. And not generic examples that he never said, or lines from the same 2 singles people reference. Show me where he does this on albums consistently

And that's your opinion that Ghost killed it and Cam is corny. I completely disagree. I think they're both dope.

Ok. It'll take some time. But I'll do it. But I can say that as I was listening to the album - there were times when I was predicting the next line.

Oh - and fair enough on Ghost v. Cam.

 

[Anti-Anime]

Cam is still fukkin garbage.

 

[FreshAIG]

Why give examples when you'll just use the same excuse of "it went over your head"?

If you give legit ones then you give legit ones. Don't cop out before you give a real example. You'll just love throwing out generic insults about Cam's style without giving real, direct examples. Y'all love to just say stuff you overheard other people say online. Nobody says what y'all say about Cam in reality

 

[mobbinfms]

If you give legit ones then you give legit ones. Don't cop out before you give a real example. You'll just love throwing out generic insults about Cam's style without giving real, direct examples. Y'all love to just say stuff you overheard other people say online. Nobody says what y'all say about Cam in reality

50 was the one to make the computers putin line blow up. It resonated for a reason. Nas also dissed him and told him to step his game up lyrically (albeit several years earlier). I point to these examples as evidence that his own peers accuse him of the same things that we are taking him to task for.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

That's 8 out of 18 songs. Agree with More Gangsta Music and Down and Out.
Harlem Streets and Adrenaline - meh. Although Twista killed Adrenaline.

Didnt feel the need to do a complete review (Im writing a paper at the moment as well)...the vast majority of the remaining songs, if not all of them, are not below a 3 or 3.5 and, in addition, the production is complete fire. The album is not a 3/3.5 album, not to me at least, and I dont think its close.

 

[FreshAIG]

50 was the one to make the computers putin line blow up. It resonated for a reason. Nas also dissed him and told him to step his game up lyrically (albeit several years earlier). I point to these examples as evidence that his own peers accuse him of the same things that we are taking him to task for.

No. He told Nore to step his game up lyrically. He said "I like Cam and everything, he's a good lyricist, but that album is trash" his exact words.

and the irony of 50 critiquing anyone's lyrics

 

[mobbinfms]

No. He told Nore to step his game up lyrically. He said "I like Cam and everything, he's a good lyricist, but that album is trash" his exact words.

and the irony of 50 critiquing anyone's lyrics

My bad. That one quote does encapsulate my position on Cam pretty succinctly.
And I caught one from SDE on the way home. I'm paraphrasing from memory.
They used to call me work out, cause before I'd bring that work out, I would work out.

 

[mobbinfms]

Didnt feel the need to do a complete review (Im writing a paper at the moment as well)...the vast majority of the remaining songs, if not all of them, are not below a 3 or 3.5 and, in addition, the production is complete fire. The album is not a 3/3.5 album, not to me at least, and I dont think its close.

I hear you.

 

[FreshAIG]

My bad. That one quote does encapsulate my position on Cam pretty succinctly.
And I caught one from SDE on the way home. I'm paraphrasing from memory.
They used to call me work out, cause before I'd bring that work out, I would work out.

I know what song you're talking about, but I actually like that line. But I could understand not liking it

But you see how few and far between these lines are though? Like y'all have a rough times finding lines you don't like from a rapper that's been in the game for over 15 years (counting COC).

I'm not saying everybody gotta be a Cam fan or like his style or rapping, just disagree with people calling him out on things he doesn't actually do. Cause that's how the internet works, a lot of times people will just tend to follow the trends of things people say that have no real validity. That's my only point.

 

[the rhyme king]

I know what song you're talking about, but I actually like that line. But I could understand not liking it

But you see how few and far between these lines are though? Like y'all have a rough times finding lines you don't like from a rapper that's been in the game for over 15 years (counting COC).

I'm not saying everybody gotta be a Cam fan or like his style or rapping, just disagree with people calling him out on things he doesn't actually do. Cause that's how the internet works, a lot of times people will just tend to follow the trends of things people say that have no real validity. That's my only point.

fukk out of here with this bullshyt u try to force your bullshyt on everybody else like if anybody don't agree with you u disregard they opinion with disrespect it's like why debate if u going to just disregard everybody's opinion it defeats the purpose imo.