Can an argument be made that todays rappers are more talented than "golden era" rappers??

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Lil Uzi "XO Tour Life" is an example of a record from today being outta the league of the golden age rappers... they could never create something as catchy or musical as that.... and I dont even like Uzi... but todays young nikkas are too catchy wit it.... too many flows... too many melodies.... so many hot beats.... its different... cant really compare the two cause theyre bringing different shyt to the table but I love the new shyt.
 

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I know the whole "shyt on everything new and romanticize the past" thing is a popular stance here, but I do think rappers nowadays are a hair more dynamic. It's painful to say, but rap is a lot more dynamic now musically, with all the adlibs, singing, different flows etc. There has been progression too.
 
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You can make an argument for a lot of dumb shyt, be my guest.

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But before you go there, unless you're old enough to have some perspective you need to study the subject at hand a little bit.

Case Study: Rakim.

Ask yourself why one of the most revered and respected rappers of all time didn't even really stick around long enough to be contemporaries with guys like Snoop/Pac/Cube on the level that you would expect...had nothing to do with talent or a "fall off", it had to do with progression and expansion all of which were pushed forward and accelerated largely because of his contributions as an MC.

The game started moving fast off his momentum and "left him behind" as far as the music industry goes. Real recognize real though.

Peace.

So you're saying he was left behind because he couldn't progress forward ? :dahell:
 

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So you're saying he was left behind because he couldn't progress forward ? :dahell:

No, because being marketable is not about progression...see I already know where some people will head with this. Like Rakim was supposed to switch up his sound or "progress" by ultimately not being himself just to "keep up" with what the music industry was selling.

The growth rate of Hip Hop from Ra's prime til the mid 90's was like watching new technology take off and change the world in a few years. You had regional acts, more marketing dollars, less control in the hands of the people. That's not a skill deficiency or lack of quality. That's Hip Hop growing exponentially partly due to what he put down until it became a global phenomenon controlled by corporate interests.
 

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technically they should be "better"

MUCH more modern access to music, styles, culture and the tools to learn from metaphors, language, slang etc via the Internet

Charisma is the thing that separates IMO, even when EVERYONE was a gangster on the west coast and everyone was a mafia don in the east they all had a unique spin on the theme

Too many cats are content to ride whatever hot wave everyone is on and do it the exact same way right now

I don't mind rolling up my sleeves and digging for new artists and music tho so it doesn't affect me much
Who are the artist that you are referring too?
 

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Lil Uzi "XO Tour Life" is an example of a record from today being outta the league of the golden age rappers... they could never create something as catchy or musical as that.... and I dont even like Uzi... but todays young nikkas are too catchy wit it.... too many flows... too many melodies.... so many hot beats.... its different... cant really compare the two cause theyre bringing different shyt to the table but I love the new shyt.
Exactly,a lot of the golden era artist had to rely on females singing on hooks or the big male R&b artist of the time to make "catchy" music or music that appeal outside of the starving for bars rap nerds
 

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Exactly,a lot of the golden era artist had to rely on female singing on hooks to make "catchy" music.

harsh realities bro.... they had to sample hit records and get females forreal... them nikkas had zero musical value.... they were just poets honestly, not artists or musicians
 

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I know the whole "shyt on everything new and romanticize the past" thing is a popular stance here, but I do think rappers nowadays are a hair more dynamic. It's painful to say, but rap is a lot more dynamic now musically, with all the adlibs, singing, different flows etc. There has been progression too.
They are better at making music that women can ride out and vibe too.

The golden era artist had no need to appeal to this demographic because R&B was big at that time.
 

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nope.... everybodies cadance and flow is taken from someone else who already used on a record....sheeit just look at the tri states they dont even have a regional sound anymore
 

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Lmao @ almost everything being wrong in your opening paragraph...rappees weren't trying to sing back then and when they did, bone thugs harmonizing >>>> the autotune (lil and young everybody) , ear scratching (Cole, Sean) sounds being made today

Bone is an exception and are rarely herald when 90s heads romanticize about the golden era.

Bone was so ahead of their time that they appealed to the south more than Biggie, pac, Wu tang, Nas, Mobb Deep ever did and thats because of their musicality which is what the OP is talking about
 
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