Can an argument be made that todays rappers are more talented than "golden era" rappers??

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in the 90s, all you had to do was spit those lyrical miracle raps...most of the rappers in that time were ugly, couldn't dress or harmonize, and make a HIT song that could cross over into the mainstream...they were literally making songs for other nikkas to sing along to :mjlol:

in todays climate, the masses realized ANYBODY could rap or spit bars, so in the early 2000's they demanded more from a "rapper"...now you have to be a strong performer on stage, be melodic and harmonize hooks, know how to hold your own on the dance floor, look good and dress fresh...you have to be really talented to make it in the game today

do you think its a coincidence that the billboard hot 100 is flooded with todays generation of hip hop music? or is it safe to say, the quality of music is simply better than back in the days? it reaches and touches way more people now than ever before...billboard was once filled with nikkas like the beatles and rolling stones...now lil yachty and uzi taking up those same spots :win:

Are we finally seeing what hip hop is truly capable of?
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These kids have technical skill but few classics.

I blame Jay z and the expansion of hip-hop to broke nikkas who only cared about getting paid
 

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R&B is not hiphop and you totally missed the point of this thread.

No one is saying a rapper is better than Pac or Raekwon this thread is saying that these rapper s are better at certain aspects of music than those guys

Bruh... the title of this thread asks whether a case can be made that today's rappers are more talented than those of the past. And then the criteria listed is about shyt like singing and how they dress and dance...

Obviously R&B is not hip-hop, no kidding. But since we givin' rappers extra love for their ability to create melodies and shyt that has nothin' to do with rapping, we supposed to prop these R&B nikkas up now too because they part-time rappers nshyt?

Point is, the argument is off-base like a MF, even the way all rappers of the past are considered 'lyrical miracle' like the shyt was just a bunch of words that rhymed and had no thought or coherence behind them. Which is kinda funny when you think about it, because this era epitomizes that exact thing. And there are artists who I think are dope, and not just the usual cliche Kendrick/J.Cole/etc. types but also Migos, Rae Sremmurd, and some others. But to act like a bunch of sorry MFs are supremely talented cause they know how to turn a whole song into a hook... getattahere...
 
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Bruh... the title of this thread asks whether a case can be made that today's rappers are more talented than those of the past. And then the criteria listed is about shyt like singing and how they dress and dance...

Obviously R&B is not hip-hop, no kidding. But since we givin' rappers extra love for their ability to create melodies and shyt that has nothin' to do with rapping, we supposed to prop these R&B nikkas up now too because they part-time rappers nshyt?
just stop
 

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just stop

You guys are funny... but I understand... everybody wants their era to win really badly... even if they gotta reach a lil' bit and exaggerate and discredit other eras just to make their shyt shine more... I get it. Even the most mediocre sports teams have fans with season tickets.
 

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Rap is the only genre that prefers to be a dysfunctional family amidst all the fukkery that continues to undone this art form. Generations love pointing fingers, but NOT A SINGLE VOW for taking responsibility.

That being said, these new nikkas in my age group don't hold a candle to their mentors, idols and OG's. At the same time, Rap as a genre goes through very few periods of innovation and change for musical composition. Each decade has its own unique set of challenges, paradigms, "culture shock", etc. So to compare this one to the Golden Age, is not only a massive age difference, but one where it's an entirely different school of thought.

Parents and kids can't relate for a reason, so stop trying to force this.
 

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An argument can definitely be made.

Ross= Big
Wayne=pac
Kendrick=,, Andre
Drake= Jay Z.
Not saying its true just saying there's an argument
 

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Way to much reliance on production and not actually rapping and I still love the new artist and think there's a place for that but the previous generation was more creative. They are a few like that now still tho

Hate on the lyrical, miracle raps all you want, its Hip Hop.
 

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Lil Uzi "XO Tour Life" is an example of a record from today being outta the league of the golden age rappers... they could never create something as catchy or musical as that.... and I dont even like Uzi... but todays young nikkas are too catchy wit it.... too many flows... too many melodies.... so many hot beats.... its different... cant really compare the two cause theyre bringing different shyt to the table but I love the new shyt.

Even using the horrible "They got melodies" argument, Bone Thugs and Three 6 kinda shyt on them still
 

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An argument can definitely be made.

Ross= Big
Wayne=pac


Not saying its true just saying there's an argument

That's not an argument nikka that's a fight.

full
 

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they definitely werent as musical in terms of melodies or crafting new flows.... also the beats today are so much more epic... musically, its better..... not lyrically tho... but then again, music isn't dependent on lyrics anyway... there are genres of music without any lyrics at all.. music will always be about feeling....

golden age rappers didnt have as many flows or melodies or hit making abilities as today... thats true.... but todays rappers really lack in substance.. they aint saying much.... but they're way more musical so it SOUNDS better... its so much more catchy.... these nikkas make hit records in their sleep... golden age rappers sound washed when they try to spit their 1995-2005 flows with these young nikkas... even Jay sound outta place... they simply cant hang
The golden age is where the masterpieces came out:what:hip hop is garbage now only a few artists i listen to now.:martin:
 

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in the 90s, all you had to do was spit those lyrical miracle raps...most of the rappers in that time were ugly, couldn't dress or harmonize, and make a HIT song that could cross over into the mainstream...they were literally making songs for other nikkas to sing along to :mjlol:

in todays climate, the masses realized ANYBODY could rap or spit bars, so in the early 2000's they demanded more from a "rapper"...now you have to be a strong performer on stage, be melodic and harmonize hooks, know how to hold your own on the dance floor, look good and dress fresh...you have to be really talented to make it in the game today

do you think its a coincidence that the billboard hot 100 is flooded with todays generation of hip hop music? or is it safe to say, the quality of music is simply better than back in the days? it reaches and touches way more people now than ever before...billboard was once filled with nikkas like the beatles and rolling stones...now lil yachty and uzi taking up those same spots :win:

Are we finally seeing what hip hop is truly capable of?

Most style that are used today are old styles and I find it difficultly to give props to any rapper who is using a style that they were the originator of. The 90s rappers invented their rhyme styles and flows and the. master them. Today's rappers bite 90s rhyme styles, flows and techniques and master them. The props has to go to the originator who ushered in a style or type of rhyming back when it was twice as hard to get on, get air play and blow up. New rappers have it easy
 
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