Can anybody please explain why you never hear people say" what abt White on white crime"

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Excellent post Primetime. easily the best in this thread thus far. I agree largely with everything except you alluding that if white on white crime was a bigger issue, the media would not call it a white problem but an American problem.

You might be right about that, who knows. But on issues that spring up and disproportionally affect white americans. The media does describe it as a white issue. The big issue with Heroin over the last few years comes to mind.

I've seen dozens of stores (60 minutes, 20/20, etc...) that called out the white community over the new widespread Heroin problem in middle white America.

So I think they would if the white on white crime also took off to unprecedented levels.
Good point. I think my response would be, even if the media did call it white on white crime, for our country white = American so the issue would be more about semantics rather than the media trying to push the notion that only white people should care about this issue. In other words, if something is problem for white Americans then it is a problem for America as a whole. Whereas, if something is a problem for a Black America, then it is a problem for only Black America and every other part of America should not be concerned. No one but the most extreme conservatives, is telling white America to get over the heroin crisis on their own. Instead, the heroine crisis has become a major part of this years presidential campaign.
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You see, this is what happens when something is a white issue. It quickly becomes a societal issue. When something is a black issue, on the other hand, society will ignore it unless it somehow starts to affect white people.
 

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Cmon bro thats all you got.

1) Even if you add other violent crimes (besides murder of course) the numbers are even worse in terms of black on black violent crimes (versus other races among themselves)

2) You lack reading comprehension bro. I specifically said the percentages are irrelevant. I even said lets assume all whites kill other whites and all blacks kill other blacks (100% either way). Does that make them equally bad even if blacks kill each other 10 times worse than white killings? Yes it does make it worse which explains the emphasis on black on black crime "problem".

3) Anybody in the Coli and "Ronnie Lott" PLEASE I'll paypal you $100 if you can show me 1 American City where 0 blacks live and their is white violent crime rampant! One city!

$100 paypal to anyone that can provide me what Ronnie Lott alleged.

By the way I can name 100 cities populated by a high number of blacks that have rampant black on black crime.

BUT AGAIN NAME 1 AMERICAN CITY where there are 0 blacks and has a HIGH VIOLENT CRIME RATE.

ONE CITY!

Comparing crime-rates is a non-starter argument. Comparing "crime rates" as if they're truly standardized assumes the following:

1) Crimes are reported, processed and prosecuted in exactly the same manner in every community in America
2) Laws are enforced in exactly the same manner in every community in America
3) The numbers reported by law enforcement throughout America are carefully scrutinized and fact-checked down to a negligible margin of error

Your argument is not factually based on any of the above. Sentencing disparity, arrest disparity, falsified charges and etc. are the tip of the iceberg. Some "violent crimes" are not even reported as crimes depending on where you are. A mere high school/middle school fight in one school district is felony/misdemeanor assault in another.

Homicides are a relatively unskewed statistic on paper but the conclusion that you're reaching in between the lines (black people are predisposed to violence and whites are not) is extremely skewed.
 
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Black on black is racist myth. It's classic white devil double speak. Allow me to explain. All races commit more crime within their community. Of course the focus is on black crime rates because that discussion allows devils to push negative propaganda about black men to the world. They'll hide behind statistics an ignore the conditions that created the person they call a criminal.

I admire Paul Mooney because he doesn't compromise. He said he'd kill his own mother if she was white and the revolution came. I'd love to do a social experiment where a society is allowed to develop without any influence from white people.
 

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Black on black is racist myth. It's classic white devil double speak. Allow me to explain. All races commit more crime within their community. Of course the focus is on black crime rates because that discussion allows devils to push negative propaganda about black men to the world. They'll hide behind statistics an ignore the conditions that created the person they call a criminal.

I admire Paul Mooney because he doesn't compromise. He said he'd kill his own mother if she was white and the revolution came. I'd love to do a social experiment where a society is allowed to develop without any influence from white people.
It's not about the percentage of intraracial crime. Of course most crime will occur within the same community or around the same race of peoples, that's common sense; even these so called racist white devils will agree with you on that, but have you looked at the total numbers?

2014 stats:

Whites committed 2,756 total murders
Blacks committed 2,693 total murders

Whites made up 62.6% of population(79% including hispanics who checked "white")
Blacks made up 13.2% of population

Whites committed 63 more murders in 2014. A peoples that outnumber another by nearly 5:1, committed only 63 more murders. I hate to use "only" in this instance, but, when you look back at that ratio... yeah.

Then when you realize that hispanics are included in the "race of offender" category as white... subtract them and whites actually commit less annual murder than a peoples who they outnumber by nearly 5:1.. think about that..
 

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It's not about the percentage of intraracial crime. Of course most crime will occur within the same community or around the same race of peoples, that's common sense; even these so called racist white devils will agree with you on that, but have you looked at the total numbers?

2014 stats:

Whites committed 2,756 total murders
Blacks committed 2,693 total murders

Whites made up 62.6% of population(79% including hispanics who checked "white")
Blacks made up 13.2% of population

Whites committed 63 more murders in 2014. A peoples that outnumber another by nearly 5:1, committed only 63 more murders. I hate to use "only" in this instance, but, when you look back at that ratio... yeah.

Then when you realize that hispanics are included in the "race of offender" category as white... subtract them and whites actually commit less annual murder than a peoples who they outnumber by nearly 5:1.. think about that..
I grew up in Richmond California. Not the nice part either. Brookside and Giant right next to Parchester Village. That was my everyday reality my friend. I'd read about someone I know shooting someone I know more than I'm comfortable saying.

The first gun I saw was in fourth grade. My brother and his friend Devin who later got locked up over gun charges were shooting at a dog in the creek. The first time I held a gun and planned to use it when sixth grade. I had a loaded revolver pointed at my brother and I was going to pull the trigger but my mom grabbed the gun.

I appreciate you explaining BOB to me as you did. I hadn't viewed it from that perspective. I still think that conversation leads to the black men are criminal propaganda when discussed outside of our race, but I understand and respect your position.
 

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I really can't stand when black ppl play dumb about this kind of shyt, you know exactly why you laughed off Slim Jesus.

There are practically no white southside of Chicagos, eastside Detroits, Camdens, Newarks, Brownsvilles, South Centrals etc

Can you even name a single city/area in the entire country where whites are killing each other like black ppl have been doing in the places mentioned above for decades? Just a single one?
 
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So this is all just media propaganda? There are not actually Black men killing one another at disproportionately high rates?
Obviously , but we cant neglect the conditions and circumstances that fuel it , most people ITT arguing against OP is making it seem as if blacks are killing other blacks just for no reason without dwelling on poverty , controplieo , the deliberate and calculated destruction of black neighborhoods etc
 

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I'm really amazed that these cacs in here think they deserve a pat on the back for having a 40yr break from being the most violent people in America...after centuries of perpetual violence :dwillhuh:

We're talking about people that literally murdered and destroyed just about everyone not white in site. But have the nerve to point the finger at a rape victim that still lives with it's rapist and saying "blacks are messed up in the head"

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They still do it now, mostly in the form of military conflict. How many nations has the US invaded since the Truman administration? How many bombs dropped, people shot, maimed, and murdered whether or not America declared war?
 

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most attention draw to "white" behavior, violence or otherwise, is usually drawn juxtaposed to other racial group. They get to be the invisible standard because of the control of the conversation and the placement of other races or groups within the conversation. Thats my opinion though
 

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Correction: it is 2.6 Whites and 18.3 Blacks per 100,000, not 1,000.
My bad, left out some zeros you are correct. Same point though. NOT that this should be used as a justification when cops kill unarmed black men. But I think about it when I hear black lives matter. I'm thinking we need to tell ourselves that first because if we don't give a sh!t about us who will?
 

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Akan, you seem to follow the typical black where everything is a deflection or a "Reason" for why blacks commit crimes.

I don't care about the drug trade or why it has caused black murders or gangs or whatever you want to call it.

The topic of this discussion was about why black on black crime is describe or criticized more. It is not WHY or the underlying reasoning or excuse for the rampant violent crimes.

But again, you deflect by pretending as if Mexicans are killing each other more so than blacks. Or b/c white people buy heroin, this is why blacks are killing each other.

And I'm not saying these are not factors. But it does not dismiss or excuse the fact that this is damn problem man.

See this analogy, a person puts a gun on a table. And another person picks it up and shoots every person in the room.

The difference between me and you is . You blame the person that put the gun on the table. I BLAME the person who does the shooting. I dont give a damn about the person that put the gun down on the table. The fault lies with the person that made the choice to do the killings

The same things with drugs. These ppl in these inner city communities have a f*cking choice. This is not slavery. They could go to college instead of slinging and killing for herion or crack.

I blame them for the choices they make (to kill and be violent). Not the ppl who put the drugs in the communities. I could give a damn about them.

Thats the difference between me and you. I'm about self accountability and choosing the right path. You're about deflecting and make excuses as to why ray-ray decided to shoot his fellow black man over drugs.

So it is deflection to ask you where you got your numbers from?

So you are not acting like the typical Cac by throwing out bullshyt propaganda alleging that certain facts exists, but no one should ask you for verification of those facts? That is the true art of deflection
 
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Not really that hard when blacks themselves sensationalize it i.e. music videos, stop snitching, hood 2 hood, Beef, and countless other outlets.

It is replies like this one that shows a person's true ignorance. Does listening to music about cheating on your wife make you likely to commit adultry? Does listening to gospel music make you religious? Does listening to Country music make white dudes go out and fukk sheep?

Music is usually telling a story about people experiences. The people that buy that music are usually people that understand that experience.

Another thing that ignorant people do is use "blacks" as if all "blacks" do the same things, whether the "blacks" are 90 year old women or 16 year old boys; or whether the "blacks" are 60 year old men or 14 year old girls. All that I know is that if I take media accounts of "whites" the same way that you take media accounts of "blacks" then ALL "whites" are pedophiles and drug addicts with penchants for mass murders.
 
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