Can someone explain Google's logic behind messaging in Android?

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Maybe I missed it , but why the hell hasn't SMS/MMS advanced at all since fukin 1986? We got LTE, VoIP, and damn near a Cray computer in our pocket and the standard messaging system in America in 2015 is still limited to a .2 megapixel video


SMS aint going nowhere no time soon because it works extremely well on any platform for the cheap...... SMS is for short communication and was never intended to be the main mode of communicating on your phone
 

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Never heard of Google Messenger. I don't know anyone who uses Hangout. Isn't that stuff more tied in with Google+?

I always use the default SMS service on my phone... Don't know what else people would want or expect.
 

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I agree :yeshrug: My 6p came with both Hangouts and Messanger.......... why? :mindblown: I can't believe Google is doing shyt like this. Hangouts has horrible performance, but Messanger is too damn basic. Just get rid of Messanger and put all of your attention on Hangouts.

Manufacturers will continue to put their own messaging apps on their phones though. This is one case where I can say open source sucks.
 

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I'm not gonna go back and forth with you about water being wet anymore....if you can't see the benefit of having a single app (and, again, this isn't about options, cuz that single app could be Google's or handcent, or gosms, or textra, or whatever you choose) that handles messaging regardless of how you initiate that message (whether you start from a new message in the app, from a continuation of a message thread, from your missed/recent call list, from voice activation, etc) AND regardless of what you're trying to send (a simple text, a pic, a vid, or a group message, whatever) AND automatically, behind the scenes, decides the optimal way to send that message (via WiFi, 3G/4G, sms or mms protocol, etc), then fine, go enjoy your phone. :yeshrug:

But your experience could be better, and if you took your fanboy hat off for a second and actually listened to iOS users and fellow Android users who are not so blinded you would see this shortcoming and implore Google to do something about it. :ld:


I get adjustments based on my last reviewed message. I don't have anything wrong with that. As a one in all solution it works for me.

Yes my experience cell could be better as with everything else in life. As of right now for me the app is fine. You just have different expectations from eveeveryone else.

As for being a fan boy don't be so hasty. Unlike others I give real replies when it's worth it and this was one of them. I really don't have a problem with the app (as do others) in some areas you're complaining about. Maybe it's the setup. Maybe it's the phone. I don't know. Difference expectations I suppose.

And two apps for two different reasons. If Google doesn't ship Messenger then there is no solo text (as AOSP got replaced with Google stuff). Yes, it doesn't make sense to some degree, but I see what they're doing in having a solo simple text app for those who don't want Hangouts.
 

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Hang outs always been laggy as hell in my experience. Not smooth at all.

I just want to text and occasionally send photos. Google Messenger is better for it.
Curiously enough Hangouts was just fixed last night. The packet size has been reduced greatly.
 

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Curiously enough Hangouts was just fixed last night. The packet size has been reduced greatly.
Yeah, I was feeling adventurous and tried the app again last night. It's gotten a lot smoother.

Can I move my conversations in Hangouts from device to device?
 

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Yeah, I was feeling adventurous and tried the app again last night. It's gotten a lot smoother.

Can I move my conversations in Hangouts from device to device?
I'm sure it is, as I still have access to conversations that were had on a previous device.
 

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Seriously, why are there so multiple Google messaging apps?
Google has messenger and Hangouts....what's the point of separate apps? :mindblown:

They did the same thing in the early days having a 'browser' app and a 'chrome' app you had to download. Truly made no sense whatsoever.


Is Google really not smart enough to see that having a common messaging system that the vast majority of Android users use would be tremendous leverage for their market share? :mindblown:

One thing the iOS does really well is iMessage. It's not that iMessage is such a great app (there's nothing special about it), it's just that everyone uses it so they communicate with each other flawlessly. This is really frustrating, because MMS fukking SUCKS. Yet I'm forced to use it when group texting. There's no advantage to Android to Android communication, because people use different apps so I still have to send MMS. This issue is becoming so frustrating that I'm genuinely considering moving to iOS for my next phone.

It's a bit ridiculous that Google hasn't developed a competent, system wide, messaging solution by now. Seems they don't care to.

Can someone, anyone, explain what the hell they're thinking? :mindblown:


This was one of my biggest pet peeves. Got that 6s a month ago and life is great with iMessage. :ahh:
 

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Never used Hangouts or Google's Messenger app, I used the Samsung messaging app that came with my GS6 for awhile, switched to Chomp SMS and never looked back!
 

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I had to leave android alone because of stupid shyt like this. Android been out for 7 years and they can't get shyt right. Every vendor got their own browser, messaging app, photos app, cloud services, ect....now there is gmail and a gmail replacement, inbox. If you wanna text from your PC you gotta use pushbullet or mighty text unless the other person is on hangouts, which nobody is. :dahell:

You move to Apple and everything is just so simple, especially if you got a macbook or iMac.
 

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i only use hangouts to message from my mac/pc but i use Google Messenger on my actual devices.
 
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