Can someone explain Google's logic behind messaging in Android?

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Messenger is the text app for Android

Hangouts is the evolution of gChat, which has been out since before iMessage, and does the same thing as messenger along with gChat

Apple fanboys once again puzzled when they step out of the cave :smh:

Pretty much this. Lol @ OP spazzing because he has choice.
 
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Pretty much this. Lol @ OP spazzing because he has choice.
:why: how do people still not get it? :why:

This ain't about anti-choice. No one is complaining about the multitude of 3rd party options one has for texting and messaging. This is about the inefficiencies of Google developing separate apps.

In addition to the numerous points already raised in this thread, the other disadvantage to developing two separate apps with similar functions is that innovations/improvements made in one don't carry over to the other. For example, messenger has a nice feature of automatically assigning different color bubbles to each member of a group chat. This makes reading group messages much better....but hangouts doesn't do this :beli:

I tried using hangouts as my default app, it just fails tho, on a number of fronts. First, with gifs, I can't send any media (gifs, pics, vidz) with a caption....the text has to be sent separately. Secondly if a gif is too large, it'll just send a still of one frame. No warning, you won't know it did this until the message is sent, and the recipient is left confused. Messenger has neither of these problems. Secondly, the conversation list won't lost all my convos. I don't know if it's just listing those with hangouts or what but it's annoying. 3rd, when I want message someone, I just want to send them a message...don't want to have to decide everytime wether it's an sms, mms, group, or whatever. If all I'm saying is "what's up?" Hangouts should be able to determine an sms is the proper route, or maybe a hangout is because the recipient uses hangouts...But do all that behind the scenes. A single convo may go from texts to gifs back to texts to a vid, who the hell wants to open a separate app depending on what they wanna send in the same conversation? :beli:
 

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:why: how do people still not get it? :why:

This ain't about anti-choice. No one is complaining about the multitude of 3rd party options one has for texting and messaging. This is about the inefficiencies of Google developing separate apps.

In addition to the numerous points already raised in this thread, the other disadvantage to developing two separate apps with similar functions is that innovations/improvements made in one don't carry over to the other. For example, messenger has a nice feature of automatically assigning different color bubbles to each member of a group chat. This makes reading group messages much better....but hangouts doesn't do this :beli:

I tried using hangouts as my default app, it just fails tho, on a number of fronts. First, with gifs, I can't send any media (gifs, pics, vidz) with a caption....the text has to be sent separately. Secondly if a gif is too large, it'll just send a still of one frame. No warning, you won't know it did this until the message is sent, and the recipient is left confused. Messenger has neither of these problems. Secondly, the conversation list won't lost all my convos. I don't know if it's just listing those with hangouts or what but it's annoying. 3rd, when I want message someone, I just want to send them a message...don't want to have to decide everytime wether it's an sms, mms, group, or whatever. If all I'm saying is "what's up?" Hangouts should be able to determine an sms is the proper route, or maybe a hangout is because the recipient uses hangouts...But do all that behind the scenes. A single convo may go from texts to gifs back to texts to a vid, who the hell wants to open a separate app depending on what they wanna send in the same conversation? :beli:

Those who like choices :troll:
 
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:why: how do people still not get it? :why:

This ain't about anti-choice. No one is complaining about the multitude of 3rd party options one has for texting and messaging. This is about the inefficiencies of Google developing separate apps.

In addition to the numerous points already raised in this thread, the other disadvantage to developing two separate apps with similar functions is that innovations/improvements made in one don't carry over to the other. For example, messenger has a nice feature of automatically assigning different color bubbles to each member of a group chat. This makes reading group messages much better....but hangouts doesn't do this :beli:

I tried using hangouts as my default app, it just fails tho, on a number of fronts. First, with gifs, I can't send any media (gifs, pics, vidz) with a caption....the text has to be sent separately. Secondly if a gif is too large, it'll just send a still of one frame. No warning, you won't know it did this until the message is sent, and the recipient is left confused. Messenger has neither of these problems. Secondly, the conversation list won't lost all my convos. I don't know if it's just listing those with hangouts or what but it's annoying. 3rd, when I want message someone, I just want to send them a message...don't want to have to decide everytime wether it's an sms, mms, group, or whatever. If all I'm saying is "what's up?" Hangouts should be able to determine an sms is the proper route, or maybe a hangout is because the recipient uses hangouts...But do all that behind the scenes. A single convo may go from texts to gifs back to texts to a vid, who the hell wants to open a separate app depending on what they wanna send in the same conversation? :beli:
Basically. It boils down to seamless integration within the app itself and the entire Apple ecosystem. "It just works."
 

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Receiving video on android is a joke. shyt looks like vhs found footage

I hate these type of statements. So receiving video on an LG, Samsung, HTC etc is all the same? I thinks not.


I've been using GOSMS for years. Is Google Messenger a better option?
 
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I've been using GOSMS for years. Is Google Messenger a better option?

I haven't used gosms since before Android could do group messaging...I suspect they're functionally pretty much the same but gosms will be much more customizable. 3rd party apps tend to allow better customization.
 

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I haven't used gosms since before Android could do group messaging...I suspect they're functionally pretty much the same but gosms will be much more customizable. 3rd party apps tend to allow better customization.


I don't really customize it all that much so I looking at it more from a functionality standpoint.
 
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I don't really customize it all that much so I looking at it more from a functionality standpoint.
Me neither, that's why it went with messenger in hopes that I'd see some performance increase.

It may perform a little better, but can't say for sure (it's rather anecdotal). MMS still get lost in the abyss sometimes asking me download, but never downloading, and it still gets bogged down when group texting gets heavy. I'd recommend giving it a run tho.
 

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Me neither, that's why it went with messenger in hopes that I'd see some performance increase.

It may perform a little better, but can't say for sure (it's rather anecdotal). MMS still get lost in the abyss sometimes asking me download, but never downloading, and it still gets bogged down when group texting gets heavy. I'd recommend giving it a run tho.

Hello was a good messaging app for me. Barebones as hell (really just does SMS and MMS with no extras) but it was reliable. Like you said I still had messages that would never download no matter what app I used though.

That's what drove me to GroupMe. I didn't have to do much to convince my people to switch over so it was easy to get started. Still falls victim to the VHS footage videos for big video clips but otherwise it kills standard SMS/MMS messaging.
 
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I hate these type of statements. So receiving video on an LG, Samsung, HTC etc is all the same? I thinks not.


I've been using GOSMS for years. Is Google Messenger a better option?
The stick messenger is shyt for sending video and that's what I use.

If you can say it doesn't need to be improved you're An idiot bottom line
 

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Because it's not pre-installed.

Vast majority of users are just going to use the default app. And when they go looking for messaging apps, there are more popular apps that come up, like gosms and handcent.
It was for me (nexus 6p).
 
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