Canibus was always overrated

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Yo! I speak at frequencies dogs would have trouble hearin'
Canibus is the lyrical version of German engineering
Raw metaphors keep you high for months
Fly around the earth twice without refuelin' once
Ain't too many categories I can fit in when it comes to spittin'
'Cause I'm over-qualified for the position
The laser-guided lyrical hybrid
Creatin' scripts so sick, I gotta arm-wrestle my pen to write it
Don't get excited, 'cause if I ever catch one of you wannabes bitin'
We gonna be fist-fightin'
So motherfukkers, what you want? I got the shotgun pumped
You feel like a frog, nikka, then jump
I possess the lyrical ammo to battle
And rip any one of you warm-blooded mammals to shambles
I'll make examples of you and eat a mouthful of your crew
The type of MC you can't outdo
I'll battle you on the 'net, I battle you in the flesh
I'll battle you over the phone, you can call me collect
I'll battle you for the respect, I'll battle you over a blank check
I'll battle you with a gun to my neck
I'll battle you standin' over the toilet with my dikk out
I'll battle you jugglin' a hand-grenade with the pin out
In a stolen car with the VIN number ripped out
Drinkin' a Guinness stout, doin' a 360 spin-out
That verse is a classic
 

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Canibus mistake was trying to make a good song. All we wanted was for him to bar out on dope sample flips. It ain't that difficult.
 
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Canibus is the only MC to ever have a better verse than Pun on the same track, he was a great mc but terrible songwriter.

He needed a a&r/executive producer to steer his projects in the right direction with beats and hooks written by other people. Choosing to roll with Wyclef over Def Jam/Ruff Ryders or even Bad Boy was a awful decision.

Truthfully Canibus should have found his way to Premo
 

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Nah when Canibus first came out, he was the nicest MC I ever heard in my life I thought. I thought he was like Rakim on steroids. I thought it was the highest level of MCing you could ever reach. The shyt he was saying had my 13 year old brain all fukked up lol.

I remember hearing him back in 1997, and I was :ohmy: at those bars and those guest appearances. Legit on some real shyt, thought he would change the rap game after Pac n BIG passed.

'Bis was a whole demon on battling. He sonned Beans so bad, Beans never responded.
 

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That's interesting, because to me his flow and voice is what put him over the top for me and I think a lot of other people. It's what separated him from the "lyrical miracle" rappers. Because he was super lyrical with a great flow and voice. That was almost unheard of.

Yeh I think to be honest it’s just my personal preference. He could body anyone at his peak but personally just wasn’t a huge fan of his voice/ delivery
 

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Canibus was lyrical, but didn't offer much beyond that and even in the 90's, an MC needed more than lyrics to get over. People blame Clef, a dud of a debut, and other factors, but truth is Canibus lacked what made other MC's great. Look at Pun, he blew up and was lyrical, but his flow and delivery amplified what he was saying. I mean, look at his "John Blaze" verse or his verse on "Deep Cover '98". It wasn't lines that were super lyrical that made those verses what they are, it was how he spit it.
 

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people always say Canibus fell off, but really the novelty just wore off. Yeah he was a dope rhymer, but saying a bunch of shyt nikkas don't understand doesn't make you nice.

"because you don't understand him don't mean that he nice"

nikka didn't make dope songs he just make dope verses, just another lyrical miracle nikka who rapped like he was battling all the time.
Lyrical miracle is literally a term made up by internet nerds:pachaha:it Sounds more like cannibus went over your head. you might need to stick to those cat in the hat level rythme schemes by pac brehski.
 

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Overrated isnt the right word for what you are trying to say.

Lyrically he was skilled and I don't think anyone can doubt that.

Making music = he was about average.

It's that simple. Not much more to it.

The challenge was always about how to best utilize his skills to make good music. Wrong label, wrong time, wrong market etc... it's all debatable as to why he underachieved. I actually think he overachieved considering how niche his type of music is. Can battle raps ever realistically outsell jiggy rap, thug rap or even 'conscious raps'? No way he could outsell Mase, Puffy, Nore or Mos Def in '98.


Oh and his raps were never really that super scientific or complicated. His best bars were always mad simple like "an emcee so ill I got AIDS scared to catch me" or "more lines than an an african herd of zebras"
 

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Canibus was lyrical, but didn't offer much beyond that and even in the 90's, an MC needed more than lyrics to get over. People blame Clef, a dud of a debut, and other factors, but truth is Canibus lacked what made other MC's great. Look at Pun, he blew up and was lyrical, but his flow and delivery amplified what he was saying. I mean, look at his "John Blaze" verse or his verse on "Deep Cover '98". It wasn't lines that were super lyrical that made those verses what they are, it was how he spit it.
Pun had hooks women could relate to. As lyrical as Pun and Biggie were, their success came from being able to make songs females could sing along to.. Joe(the singer) is what pushed Pun to that platinum status.
 

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Pun had hooks women could relate to. As lyrical as Pun and Biggie were, their success came from being able to make songs females could sing along to.. Joe(the singer) is what pushed Pun to that platinum status.

I wasn't really referring to commercial success with my post. Pun also had a dope delivery and flow that was reminiscent of G. Rap. Canibus was more monotone. Lyricism was the end all/be all of his style. He wasn't going to wow anyone with his flow and delivery. Even in the hands of a different producer, he was only going to go so far.
 

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Don't know if y'all know but in a IG interview he said that he's got something with Pete Rock. And another album coming after that with that dude Born Sun
 
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