China Fires Missiles over Taiwan for the first time in 20 years in response to Pelosi's visit UPDATE: China imposes sanctions

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You moron terrain plays a part in warfare, invading a big ass country is not the same as going into small ass country like Iraq or the Philipines it's dumb comparison

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The terrain and proximity of Ukraine should make it easier for Russia to invade, not more difficult. shyt is flat as fukk and right next door. Their logistics is just trash.

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Crazy thing about it is... these chinese fools are sanctioning the US but their sanctions are the equivalent of cutting your nose off to spite your face.

When the US sanctions a nation, they do it in a way that makes that nation hurt, and makes that nation untouchable by any other nation (if they want to keep doing business with America).

These fools sanctioned us on climate change like a little child literally throwing a tantrum, as if climate change ain't affecting them too :laff:
 

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Not even just about the Chinese citizens. Man, we North Americans are really arrogant. 65% of the world's population lives in S.E. Asia. These companies aren't leaving Asia any time soon. North America has a shrinking population. In the grand scheme of things, we're the past to these companies. Nike isn't going to say fukk 6 billion people to side with North America, neither will coke, Apple, or any of these other companies.
What do you mean they aren't going to "SIDE" with America? Those are American companies, they automatically side with the US. They may disagree when it comes to tax time, but they aren't setting up shop anywhere else. And furthermore, all of this is moot. There is no siding one way or the other because China isn't going to do a damn thing. They are just throwing a hissy fit. The majority of their food comes from the US and Canada and after that it's Brazil, and the US is Brazil's second largest trading partner. What that means is China doesn't want that smoke. 60% of their population would starve if those 3 countries shut their food supply down. And that's game over any way you slice it. China can get rocks. Let them throw their tantrum and then they can go fukk off.
 

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What do you mean they aren't going to "SIDE" with America? Those are American companies, they automatically side with the US. They may disagree when it comes to tax time, but they aren't setting up shop anywhere else. And furthermore, all of this is moot. There is no siding one way or the other because China isn't going to do a damn thing. They are just throwing a hissy fit. The majority of their food comes from the US and Canada and after that it's Brazil, and the US is Brazil's second largest trading partner. What that means is China doesn't want that smoke. 60% of their population would starve if those 3 countries shut their food supply down. And that's game over any way you slice it. China can get rocks. Let them throw their tantrum and then they can go fukk off.

These ppl are really worried about what apple and nike think of war with china. They really think that if the US declares war that US companies are going to defect to communist China and the ccp :laff::laff::laff:
 

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All the US has to do is blow up the 3 gorges dam and half the country would flood.



So yeah, a lot like world war 2

You have a child like understanding of war

if China just poisoned the water supply in America, most americans will die in a few weeks, you see how easy that is lmao doesn't work that way in real life

nothing like world war 2, there were missile defense systems in world war 2 how exactly will they blow these dam up

US is not getting boots on the ground in China even if they do good luck dealing man to man with the largest army on Earth

You're talking make believe

Here is why NSA US Admiral said about China's capabilities a DECADE AGO


China can literally shut off are power grid and send us back into the stone age

there's a book called cyber wars that warned of this and predicts how modern warfare will be ranged

through cyber attacks

you have no clue what you are talking about or understand the world today
 

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All the US has to do is blow up the 3 gorges dam and half the country would flood.



So yeah, a lot like world war 2
The counter is all they gotta do is hit our farm belt with a few nukes and we'd be S.O.L with nuclear radiation all over our food and all our food supply for hundreds of millions of people and billions around the world are destroyed. Not to mention in our current water crisis and global warming?

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Hunger and starvation would plague the survivors of a nuclear war. Millions of people would starve to death in the first few years following an all-out nuclear war. This statement has a high probability of being accurate as indicated by the following considerations:


More important, the means to transport the food from sites of harvest or storage to the consumers would no longer exist. Transportation centers would be prime targets of an aggressor intent on destroying the industrial competence of an opponent to sustain a war. Roads, bridges, and rail and port facilities would be likely targets. Foods that appear in our markets are not grown locally. In Massachusetts, for example, more than three-quarters of the food arrives from out of state by truck or rail, and supplies on hand would last for only a few days. In a nuclear attack most of these supplies in urban areas would be destroyed. In the United States and other developed countries, food no longer is carried by farmers to nearby markets. The northeastern United States is particularly vulnerable to a breakdown in transportation of foods since some 80 percent of its food is imported, but other sections of the country would fare only little better. Eighty-five percent of U.S. corn is grown in 11 Midwestern states. One-sixth of the wheat is grown in Kansas alone, and most of the rest is grown from Texas north to Minnesota, North Dakota, and Montana, with some being grown in Michigan, the Pacific Northwest, and New York State, but only a negligible amount is grown in the Northeast. Two-thirds of the soybeans are grown in the Great Lakes States and the Corn Belt. Rice is grown mainly in Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, and California. Fruit and vegetable production is nearly as regionally concentrated.2 With key railway links and highways destroyed and gasoline and diesel fuels unavailable, whatever crops survived could not be moved to places where they would be needed.

The early death of millions of humans and animals following a major nuclear war would not sufficiently compensate for the reduced available food supplies. Stocks of fuels, fertilizers, agricultural chemicals, and seed would soon be exhausted. Not only functioning tractors but also beasts of burden would be in short supply, and food production would become very labor intensive—a throwback to the primitive farming methods of the Middle Ages or earlier. The resistance of insects to radiation and the lack of pesticides would further reduce the yield of crops. Fields downwind from targeted sites are likely to be made unusable by radioactive fallout for weeks to years.

There would likely be a deterioration of the quality of the soil following a nuclear war. The death of plant and forest coverage because of fire, radiation, the lack of fertilizers, and the probable primitive slash-and-bum agricultural practices of survivors would leave the soil vulnerable to erosion by wind and rain. Desertification and coarse grasses and shrubs would render agriculture and animal husbandry less productive.

Water supplies may be seriously reduced after a nuclear war. Dams and large irrigation projects may well be targets, especially in a counter-value attack. Reduced rainfall, which is predicted in some models of the climatic effects of a nuclear war, would interfere with agricultural productivity. If freezing temperatures actually were to occur during the warm season, surface waters would be frozen and unavailable. Radioactive fail-out would contaminate reservoirs and surface waters with long-lived radioactive isotopes, primarily strontium-90, which has a half-life of 28 years, and cesium-137, which has a half-life of 33 years. These elements in the groundwater would soon be taken up by plants and would enter the food chain. Eventually they would become concentrated in humans; the strontium would accumulate in bones and the cesium in cytoplasm, where they would contribute to the long-term burden of radioactivity in survivors.
It's crazy how brittle our infrastructure becomes after attack.

I don't get how folks don't think only one side will win when two nuclear superpowers go at it that each have hundreds of warheads they'll start sending at each other.

It's war, so both sides are going to get dirty if it came to that and everybody loses. The survivors would be mad max status fighting for what's left. Not too far off from a movie.
 
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You moron terrain plays a part in warfare, invading a big ass country is not the same as going into small ass country like Iraq or the Philipines it's dumb comparison

also they are being aided by NAto and the United States, who have giving them intelligence and as well as weapons , and you have soldiers from America, Canada, and other Nato countries fighing their and training them, this is Russia against Nato stop being stupid

world's deadliest sniper was over there


Ukraine isn’t that much bigger than Iraq and the population is virtually the same. Also, I can’t think of any military strategist that would rather invade the Philippines a tropical archipelago with 100 million people to a flat modestly populated grassland like Ukraine.


Just face it, you Putin boys backed a paper tiger with the GDP of Missouri and a military that never recovered from the collapse of the Soviet Union. You thought you had the 2017 Warriors when you had the Bimbo Coles, Felton Spencer and Melvin Booker getting heavy minutes.

NATO sending Ukraine its G league weapon systems. Just 8 HIMARS have ground all offensive operations by the Russians to a halt. The US has 540 of them bytches. It’s just not a contest.
 

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Somebody in here saying Russia is the largest country on the European continent and expands into Asia like that matters :mjlol:
Majority of the Russian population stays on the European side of the continent. They’re literally all congested on one side of the country while the rest is frozen to hell or wilderness :dead:
Y’all just be saying anything to make China and Russia seem elite or better. They aren’t even on the US’s level
 

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What do you mean they aren't going to "SIDE" with America? Those are American companies, they automatically side with the US. They may disagree when it comes to tax time, but they aren't setting up shop anywhere else. And furthermore, all of this is moot. There is no siding one way or the other because China isn't going to do a damn thing. They are just throwing a hissy fit. The majority of their food comes from the US and Canada and after that it's Brazil, and the US is Brazil's second largest trading partner. What that means is China doesn't want that smoke. 60% of their population would starve if those 3 countries shut their food supply down. And that's game over any way you slice it. China can get rocks. Let them throw their tantrum and then they can go fukk off.

They don't automatically side with America. They side with profits. Population wise North America is 4.73% of the world's population. Do the math. Thats called financial suicide. As far as food dependence, China gives zero fukks and would just rob surrounding countries of their stock. This is what they have been doing in Asia for a while now stealing land and ocean from the Philippines and others. They'd probably just rob Africa and force them to fight for them as well. China played the long game.
 

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You have a child like understanding of war

if China just poisoned the water supply in America, most americans will die in a few weeks, you see how easy that is lmao doesn't work that way in real life

nothing like world war 2, there were missile defense systems in world war 2 how exactly will they blow these dam up

US is not getting boots on the ground in China even if they do good luck dealing man to man with the largest army on Earth

You're talking make believe

Here is why NSA US Admiral said about China's capabilities a DECADE AGO


China can literally shut off are power grid and send us back into the stone age

there's a book called cyber wars that warned of this and predicts how modern warfare will be ranged

through cyber attacks

you have no clue what you are talking about or understand the world today
Have have more world military history knowledge in my bookshelf than you have knowledge period. How would China poison the US water supply lmao. Y’all just make shyt up. The NSA wants funding and to be able to spy on people, that’s it’s job. Of course it’s going to fear monger about cyber attacks and hackers. It’s all bullshyt. If China somehow shut down the US power grid it would be nuclear war as the US would naturally assume it’s being prepped for a nuclear strike. Tell us if hacking is so powerful why didn’t Russia shut down Ukraines air defense and power grid? Why are they lobbing thousands of artillery shells for every foot of ground they gain. Looks a lot like 1942 out there.


What missile defense system is going to stop 20 D5 missiles with GPS tracking and armed with multiple nuclear warheads with a range of 4000km that operate on one Ohio Class stealth submarine of which the US has 14. Genuinely curious how you think the USA couldn’t cover every inch of China in nuclear radiation?


Taiwan has been talking about blowing up the 3 gorges if worse comes to worst for years
 
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You have a child like understanding of war

if China just poisoned the water supply in America, most americans will die in a few weeks, you see how easy that is lmao doesn't work that way in real life

nothing like world war 2, there were missile defense systems in world war 2 how exactly will they blow these dam up

US is not getting boots on the ground in China even if they do good luck dealing man to man with the largest army on Earth

You're talking make believe

Here is why NSA US Admiral said about China's capabilities a DECADE AGO


China can literally shut off are power grid and send us back into the stone age

there's a book called cyber wars that warned of this and predicts how modern warfare will be ranged

through cyber attacks

you have no clue what you are talking about or understand the world today

Cell phone / internet service was down for half of Canada last month for a day. We couldn't do nothing .
 
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