Christians create the annoying atheists that they hate so much.

[thegreatest]

this was the statement I was responding to:

It sounds pretty confident and self-assured
but ok, I will accept that you meant to say, "I believe that God is everything that is"
the next thing is why is that belief any better than someone believing that there is a flying banana in orbit at the edge of space and he controls and created the universe?

and lastly, I would really appreciate it you if could answer the other question

My belief isn't any better than any other belief. Just because I sound confident and self-assured, doesn't mean I view what I'm saying as KNOWLEDGE; it is only BELIEF, just like everything you're arguing for. Your belief isn't better than mine, mine isn't better than yours, people can believe in flying bananas if that makes them happy, I definitely won't stop them. I am, however, violently opposed to people telling others how they should think, and I guess that's what I'm really arguing against - the idea that there is a one truth. In 100 and 200 years, people will hold completely different things to be fact... That is just the nature of life and humans.

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I'm glad you enjoyed yourself

 

[tmonster]

Where did gravity come from?

that's easy, I don't know. next question!

 

[tmonster]

My belief isn't any better than any other belief.

are there degrees of quality or superiority of beliefs?

 

[tmonster]

I'm glad you enjoyed yourself

me too:yasure:

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Your opinion is in direct conflict with philosophy 101.

I have already showed why you are wrong.

Atheism is not a belief that there is no god. Its the lack of belief in a god.

Atheism is the same as the not-guilty charge. It does not mean you're innocent. Merely that there is not enough evidence to be guilty.

 

[Thsnnor]

agnostic-atheist with respect to religion

philosophy wise? Existential-Nihilist?

Nihilism
Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy.

Is this an accurate definition of part of what you believe. The reason I'm going after this one is it doesn't matter about the others if you are going to multiply by zero.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're probably right. At any rate, I'm opposed to ANY indoctrination, whether religious or atheist. A lot of the anti-religious people in this thread are religiously zealous in their denial of God. They talk like I imagine crusaders did in the middle ages. "This is the only one truth, you're wrong, prove your opinion is right, if you can't I must be right", etc etc etc... Just hateful horseshyt, people who think like that need help. Just live and let live, at the end of the day you can't understand another person's beliefs or god/being/nature, why bother? Just enjoy life man.

I'm not an atheist because I want NOT to believe.

I'm not religious because there are no good arguments (as of yet) that are religious.

Its not hateful horseshyt. It matters if you care about making good arguments.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Nihilism
Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy.

Is this an accurate definition of part of what you believe. The reason I'm going after this one is it doesn't matter about the others if you are going to multiply by zero.

I said EXISTENTIAL NIHILISM.

Its a single term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_nihilism

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Who said there was an author?

You keep presuming this.

I haven't presumed anything. This is YOUR claim, not mine.

YOU said God was disproved 500 years ago. When I asked "how" you responded with gravity. Sorry, but I don't find your point valid.

I can't even call your point weak because it's completely invalid. It's the equivalent of a Christian saying "If you're not Christian you're going to hell." If the person doesn't believe in the Christian doctrine then that means nothing to that person.

Same goes for your claim about gravity. If you're talking to a theist then of course God would be the author of gravity so you using gravity to disprove God is laughable at best.

You keep making claims, not me. So how is the burden of proof on me? Like I said, I haven't even begun to debate so what burden is on me? Prove what? I haven't said anything.

You're the one making claims and providing zero evidence to back up what you say. You finally, after all this time, made a point for me to at least disagree with but all you really proved is what I already knew: that you're not equipped for this type of discussion.

 

[Thsnnor]

I have already showed why you are wrong.

Atheism is not a belief that there is no god. Its the lack of belief in a god.

Atheism is the same as the not-guilty charge. It does not mean you're innocent. Merely that there is not enough evidence to be guilty.

atheism[ ey-thee-iz-uhm ]
noun
1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Take it up with the dictionary.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

that's easy, I don't know. next question!

Then you say theists take the easy way out.

I suggest you study up. I don't accept your answer.

 

[Thsnnor]

I said EXISTENTIAL NIHILISM.

Its a single term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_nihilism

If life has no meaning based upon your own link why are you spending so much energy on this thread if we are all destined to die?

Existential nihilists claim that, to be honest, one must face the absurdity of existence, that he/she will eventually die, and that both religion andmetaphysics are simply results of the fear of death.

I'm not afraid of death. I've been clinically dead before and brought back to life. Why would I fear death as a Christian? My physical death means I'm going to Jesus. That is not fear... that is excitement.

 

[semtex]

Like I said, you haven't met the prerequisites for this type of discussion.

When was gravity proven to not be a result of God?

Understanding the science behind something does not negate the author of said science.

There's levels to this shyt. And you're waaaayyyy down there.

what is god the result of?

 

[thegreatest]

Nihilism
Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is often associated with extreme pessimism and a radical skepticism that condemns existence. A true nihilist would believe in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy.

Is this an accurate definition of part of what you believe. The reason I'm going after this one is it doesn't matter about the others if you are going to multiply by zero.

Only the first sentence. I still believe in enjoying life and creating things. Just because nothing can be known and everything is meaningless doesn't mean I have to force other people into believing what I believe, either.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I haven't presumed anything. This is YOUR claim, not mine.

Dude. YOU said "well who did it"

Dawg, I NEVER brought that up.

YOU said God was disproved 500 years ago. When I asked "how" you responded with gravity. Sorry, but I don't find your point valid.

Things ATTRIBUTED to god were disproved.

Big difference.

I can't even call your point weak because it's completely invalid. It's the equivalent of a Christian saying "If you're not Christian you're going to hell." If the person doesn't believe in the Christian doctrine then that means nothing to that person.

What are you even saying?

You want to be religious. Fine. Do it. It just doesn't answer anything.

Same goes for your claim about gravity. If you're talking to a theist then of course God would be the author of gravity so you using gravity to disprove God is laughable at best.

but you can't attribute gravity to god anymore. We know how it works and of what we have CONFIRMED, there is no 'god" there.

Could there be?

Sure.

But that would require EVIDENCE.

It doesn't go: 2 + god + 2 = 4.

You keep making claims, not me. So how is the burden of proof on me? Like I said, I haven't even begun to debate so what burden is on me? Prove what? I haven't said anything.

You keep making assertions.

You're the one making claims and providing zero evidence to back up what you say. You finally, after all this time, made a point for me to at least disagree with but all you really proved is what I already knew: that you're not equipped for this type of discussion.

More aimless nonsense.