Christians create the annoying atheists that they hate so much.

[Brofato]

Fortunately most christians aren't like my family. They just epitomize what people usually hate about christians.

I surely get this.

Every conversation with my family turns into Jesus has a plan, even when I talk about current events.

It doesn't make me hate anyone who's a Christian but they do say the things people usually hate.

My beliefs are not theirs and I understand that. I don't really care for it but that's where that ends.

I've had family members try to threaten me with the concept of hell and why I shouldn't do certain things because it's not right with the lord. Mind you, these are family members who have done things I wouldn't even think about but the moment I step outside of their religious bounds I get weird looks.

It's not even the looks or the hypocrisy that bothers me. It's the blind and passionate faith that kinda weirds me out/annoys me.

 

[Thsnnor]

We cant prove a god exists and we cant prove one doesnt exist. You're not gonna convince an atheist that god exists and you're not gonna convince a believer that he exists, pointless discussion

I'm not here to convince. I'm here to attest. I see God in a ton of places. For example, people see one celled organisms and are like whatever. An Amoeba in its DNA has the equivalent of over 10,000 Encyclopedias Britanica sets of information. We have over 3.2 Billion. The math was done and proven it is impossible for our DNA to be assembled by chance.

Even better if an atheist doesn't want to believe then cool. I'm not forcing anyone to believe. Just trying to make a compelling argument.

 

[Marvel]

You mean Winter Solstice..... Jesus was born in the spring. Keeping the Sabbath was no longer needed after Jesus died and rose again.

At least you know that Christmas is wrong, but the bolded is a LIE. Keeping the sacrificial law is what CHRIST fulfilled.

Matthew 5
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Christ fulfilled the sacrificial law and to give repentance for unpardonable sins that used to be punishable by death because the sacrificial law could not provide remission of sins for things like: murder, adultery, homosexuality, etc.

The reason why you don't believe that you do not have to keep the laws of God is because of the lies you have been taught in this society and probably by your pastor.

This is the new covenant that he confirmed with the saints after he was resurrected

Daniel 9
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease

So no more sacrifice or oblation (peace offering, burnt offering). Hebrews 10 talks about it in detail.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews 10&version=KJV

Luke 20
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day

He confirmed the purpose of his death and resurrection that is part of the reason why he suffered those things because he was the first fruit of the FATHER, the unblemished LAMB to be offered as a sacrifice to redeem the children of Israel back to the FATHER.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

I believe in god. I just don't believe in Jesus

 

[thegreatest]

There is a god, and he is one. No words can describe him and all religions are only mirages and illusions, at best paths that can lead us to Him. He - and the understanding of him - is known by many names... Truth, zen, nirvana, science, Allah, Hashem, Jesus, etc... But he Is and he is undeniable, you cannot live your life without some form of belief. The problem is people start to take religion literally, which it was never meant or designed for.

The math was done and proven it is impossible for our DNA to be assembled by chance.

Even better if an atheist doesn't want to believe then cool. I'm not forcing anyone to believe. Just trying to make a compelling argument.

if that was the case, everyone would believe in god, and not everyone does, you dumb fukk. You're the reason people hate those who claim God, spouting some bullshyt half-facts while clearly not knowing what the fukk you're talking about. You're like my relatives who go on and on about "archeologists finding signs that the Hebrews really walked the desert for 40 years"

 

[FrederickDouglas]

You said if I really loved my kid I would do my best not to indoctrinate them and find out the real truth. You are judging my truth through your eyes and now it's not my truth vs your definition of truth?

The major evidence we can all attest to is people in the world are becoming more subjective in their opinions and we are going from letting each other live to you have to be happy about my decisions or I'll sue you and drag you through the mud.

No one can tell me we as a nation are better off now. The cracked out OG would have been the only one to try taking something from a 3 year old, a fight would have been straight up and if the group jumped in then it became a free for all. NOW, kids shoot each other just because, kids killing parents for putting them on punishment and taking their ipad away. Finding the truth is easier than ever when so many things are going wrong.

Jake Herbert: So you're telling me the world isn't getting worse? I've seen kids today all in black wearing makeup, shyt on their faces, everything is sex, Clinton.
Detective Marty Hart: You know, throughout history, I bet every old man probably said the same thing. And old men die, and the world keeps spinnin'.

That's a quote from "True Detective" and it basicallly sums up how every old generation sits in judgment of the new.

I'm not here to convince. I'm here to attest. I see God in a ton of places. For example, people see one celled organisms and are like whatever. An Amoeba in its DNA has the equivalent of over 10,000 Encyclopedias Britanica sets of information. We have over 3.2 Billion. The math was done and proven it is impossible for our DNA to be assembled by chance.

Even better if an atheist doesn't want to believe then cool. I'm not forcing anyone to believe. Just trying to make a compelling argument.

So you're arguing that complexity indicates design? There are plenty remarkable facets of existence, but none of that has shyt to do with a personal deity or creator.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

There is a god, and he is one. No words can describe him and all religions are only mirages and illusions, at best paths that can lead us to Him. He - and the understanding of him - is known by many names... Truth, zen, nirvana, science, Allah, Hashem, Jesus, etc... But he Is and he is undeniable, you cannot live your life without some form of belief. The problem is people start to take religion literally, which it was never meant or designed for.




if that was the case, everyone would believe in god, and not everyone does, you dumb fukk. You're the reason people hate those who claim God, spouting some bullshyt half-facts while clearly not knowing what the fukk you're talking about. You're like my relatives who go on and on about "archeologists finding signs that the Hebrews really walked the desert for 40 years"

Your position is just as illogical as his. Just more vague so that it's harder to pinpoint the flaws.

 

[Thsnnor]

At least you know that Christmas is wrong, but the bolded is a LIE. Keeping the sacrificial law is what CHRIST fulfilled.



Christ fulfilled the sacrificial law and to give repentance for unpardonable sins that used to be punishable by death because the sacrificial law could not provide remission of sins for things like: murder, adultery, homosexuality, etc.

The reason why you don't believe that you do not have to keep the laws of God is because of the lies you have been taught in this society and probably by your pastor.

This is the new covenant that he confirmed with the saints after he was resurrected



So no more sacrifice or oblation (peace offering, burnt offering). Hebrews 10 talks about it in detail.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews 10&version=KJV



He confirmed the purpose of his death and resurrection that is part of the reason why he suffered those things because he was the first fruit of the FATHER, the unblemished LAMB to be offered as a sacrifice to redeem the children of Israel back to the FATHER.

So I will ask you the same question Jesus asked the Pharisees. If your son fell in a pit on the Sabbath would you save him or obey the Sabbath?

 

[Thsnnor]

Jake Herbert: So you're telling me the world isn't getting worse? I've seen kids today all in black wearing makeup, shyt on their faces, everything is sex, Clinton.
Detective Marty Hart: You know, throughout history, I bet every old man probably said the same thing. And old men die, and the world keeps spinnin'.

That's a quote from "True Detective" and it basicallly sums up how every old generation sits in judgment of the new.



So you're arguing that complexity indicates design? There are plenty remarkable facets of existence, but none of that has shyt to do with a personal deity or creator.

Old cats are not on this forum debating this we are. Since you've gotten older in your opinion have things gotten better or worse? Straight up question.

Most people can't paint the Mona Lisa and will say wow, that artist has serious talent and others will say it's just a painting so what. They are 2 for 10 at the swap. In both cases someone painted them despite opinion.

 

[Thsnnor]

There is a god, and he is one. No words can describe him and all religions are only mirages and illusions, at best paths that can lead us to Him. He - and the understanding of him - is known by many names... Truth, zen, nirvana, science, Allah, Hashem, Jesus, etc... But he Is and he is undeniable, you cannot live your life without some form of belief. The problem is people start to take religion literally, which it was never meant or designed for.




if that was the case, everyone would believe in god, and not everyone does, you dumb fukk. You're the reason people hate those who claim God, spouting some bullshyt half-facts while clearly not knowing what the fukk you're talking about. You're like my relatives who go on and on about "archeologists finding signs that the Hebrews really walked the desert for 40 years"

Do we not have free will? People believe what they want to. No one can force you to believe anything. If you want to believe the sky is green so be it.

 

[the cac mamba]

Anyone that can't tolerate the views of other people (religious or not) is annoying. A lot of people overestimate the importance of their own opinions, live and let live

i respectfully disagree when its been proven time and time again that christianity impedes scientific progress, and affects the judgement of policy makers in our government

so fukk christianity for that, it isnt worthy of my respect until god shows his face. or any other "true" religion that completely contradicts it

 

[the cac mamba]

He confirmed the purpose of his death and resurrection that is part of the reason why he suffered those things because he was the first fruit of the FATHER, the unblemished LAMB to be offered as a sacrifice to redeem the children of Israel back to the FATHER.

 

[Drip Bayless]

i respectfully disagree when its been proven time and time again that christianity impedes scientific progress, and affects the judgement of policy makers in our government

so fukk christianity for that, it isnt worthy of my respect until god shows his face. or any other "true" religion that completely contradicts it

The guy who came up with the big bang theory was catholic so...

 

[FrederickDouglas]

Old cats are not on this forum debating this we are. Since you've gotten older in your opinion have things gotten better or worse? Straight up question.

Most people can't paint the Mona Lisa and will say wow, that artist has serious talent and others will say it's just a painting so what. They are 2 for 10 at the swap. In both cases someone painted them despite opinion.

A lot of things have improved in my lifetime although I don't like certain emerging trends.

But as far as now vs 100 years ago? I'll take now.

And it's obvious that someone is behind a painting. But that doesn't have anything with a possible creator in our case.

 

[Thsnnor]

A lot of things have improved in my lifetime although I don't like certain emerging trends.

But as far as now vs 100 years ago? I'll take now.

And it's obvious that someone is behind a painting. But that doesn't have anything with a possible creator in our case.

I hear you on taking now vs 100 years ago and these trends.

The intrinsically specific tolerances we have and need as humans is not up for debate unless people choose to not believe. I can quote non Christian Nobel winning scientists with regard to that but at the end of the day you believe what you want to and you have that ability.