Christians create the annoying atheists that they hate so much.

[thegreatest]

Your position is just as illogical as his. Just more vague so that it's harder to pinpoint the flaws.

"God" is everything that is. As per Einstein, Baruch Spinoza, Carl Sagan. Does that explain it better?

 

[FrederickDouglas]

"God" is everything that is. As per Einstein, Baruch Spinoza, Carl Sagan. Does that explain it better?

You said there was one God and that religion was never meant to be taken literally, that it's a mirage or an illusion.

But with such a general definition of God, namely that he/she/it is everything that is, there's really no point in using the term "God". So God is the shyt I took this morning and the pizza I ate for lunch? God is the lying pastor and the murderous pedophile? God is the phone I'm typing this on? God is The Coli?

Just too vague and too ludicrous to even argue.

 

[thegreatest]

You said there was one God and that religion was never meant to be taken literally, that it's a mirage or an illusion.

But with such a general definition of God, namely that he/she/it is everything that is, there's really no point in using the term "God". So God is the shyt I took this morning and the pizza I ate for lunch? God is the lying pastor and the murderous pedophile? God is the phone I'm typing this on? God is The Coli?

Just too vague and too ludicrous to even argue.

Yes, it is. It is only ludicrous because you insist on defining god within some narrow scope I have difficulty understanding. As the ancient buddhist saying goes, "god is a shyt stick". If you can't understand, you can't understand. Your inflexible conception of god is exactly what I meant by "religion is not to be taken literally". Don't try to define god, which you inherently cannot understand. Just let him BE.

If this is too much to wrap your head around, I recommend you read "hero of a thousand faces", "straw dogs", and dig deep into eastern texts; read zen stories, "bhagavad gita", and most importantly - jed mckenna's "spiritual enlightenment: the damndest thing". Your mind should clear up a little.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

Yes, it is. It is only ludicrous because you insist on defining god within some narrow scope I have difficulty understanding. As the ancient buddhist saying goes, "god is a shyt stick". If you can't understand, you can't understand. Your inflexible conception of god is exactly what I meant by "religion is not to be taken literally". Don't try to define god, which you inherently cannot understand. Just let him BE.

If this is too much to wrap your head around, I recommend you read "hero of a thousand faces", "straw dogs", and dig deep into eastern texts; read zen stories, "bhagavad gita", and most importantly - jed mckenna's "spiritual enlightenment: the damndest thing". Your mind should clear up a little.

What necessitates you calling the whole of existence God?

 

[thegreatest]

What necessitates you calling the whole of existence God?

Because that's just what he is. Do not ask me to try and put in words what can not be put in words. You either understand or you don't, it's like being pregnant, you is or you ain't. Look deep inside yourself, seek knowledge and truth and you will find Him, because he is ultimately undeniable.

Clearly, speaking about it and explaining it doesn't work, just look at all the "christians" and other "believers" who leave godless lives... They yap and they yap and they yap and yet they do not grasp the BASIC TENETS of every religion, like "do not judge".... Just look at posters like @Marvel who claim to be godly and yet go against EVERYTHING that He stands for... YOU CANNOT GRASP OR PROCESS GOD WITH YOUR LOGICAL MIND, ONLY ON A DEEPER LEVEL.

God is within you and within me, and that is where you will find understanding. You can not try to learn him by thinking or speaking or taking things literally. He just IS, and when you finally understand that - and most people only do very late in their lives - you will know.

 

[Marvel]

So I will ask you the same question Jesus asked the Pharisees. If your son fell in a pit on the Sabbath would you save him or obey the Sabbath?

Just like a "Christian"...making an excuse to break the Sabbath. You are not to work or kindle the fire (cooking) on the Sabbath. There is nothing wrong with doing good on the Sabbath day.

Luke 6
9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?

Here the breakdown of the Sabbath:

Exodus 16
23 And he said unto them, This is that which the Lord hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the Lord: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

Exodus 20
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

He blessed and hallowed (made holy, consecrated) the Sabbath for a reason.

Exodus 35
3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.

No cooking on the sabbath. Which why the disciples of Christ took ears of corn to eat and did not cook on the Sabbath.

Luke 6
And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing them in their hands.

Exodus 31
12 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.

14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

You are not sanctified by the LORD because you are trying to sanctify yourself just like most "Christians" do that do not want to keep the laws of GOD. Keeping the Sabbath is a LAW, a STATUTE and a COMMANDMENT. .

1 John 3
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

1 John 5
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

To love GOD is to keep his commandments. If these commandments are too grievous for you to keep, the love of GOD is not in you.

By me, showing you these things and trying to correct you is an act of love and keeping of GOD's commandments:

Leviticus 19
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Whoever you are learning from or have learned from that told you to break the Sabbath does not love you, because he doesn't love GOD.

 

[FrederickDouglas]

Because that's just what he is. Do not ask me to try and put in words what can not be put in words. You either understand or you don't, it's like being pregnant, you is or you ain't. Look deep inside yourself, seek knowledge and truth and you will find Him, because he is ultimately undeniable.

Clearly, speaking about it and explaining it doesn't work, just look at all the "christians" and other "believers" who leave godless lives... They yap and they yap and they yap and yet they do not grasp the BASIC TENETS of every religion, like "do not judge".... Just look at posters like @Marvel who claim to be godly and yet go against EVERYTHING that He stands for... YOU CANNOT GRASP OR PROCESS GOD WITH YOUR LOGICAL MIND, ONLY ON A DEEPER LEVEL.

God is within you and within me, and that is where you will find understanding. You can not try to learn him by thinking or speaking or taking things literally. He just IS, and when you finally understand that - and most people only do very late in their lives - you will know.

But, nikka, that's not God.

That's just being a fukking decent human being. If I'm not judgmental, if I care about other people besides myself, if I try to take in more knowledge to deepen my understanding...how the hell is that God? I don't think it's nearly as mystical or as obscure as you do. Some people are just shallow, but depth is not God.

 

[semtex]

Because that's just what he is. Do not ask me to try and put in words what can not be put in words. You either understand or you don't, it's like being pregnant, you is or you ain't. Look deep inside yourself, seek knowledge and truth and you will find Him, because he is ultimately undeniable.

Clearly, speaking about it and explaining it doesn't work, just look at all the "christians" and other "believers" who leave godless lives... They yap and they yap and they yap and yet they do not grasp the BASIC TENETS of every religion, like "do not judge".... Just look at posters like @Marvel who claim to be godly and yet go against EVERYTHING that He stands for... YOU CANNOT GRASP OR PROCESS GOD WITH YOUR LOGICAL MIND, ONLY ON A DEEPER LEVEL.

God is within you and within me, and that is where you will find understanding. You can not try to learn him by thinking or speaking or taking things literally. He just IS, and when you finally understand that - and most people only do very late in their lives - you will know.

Sounds like a cop-out to me.

 

[thegreatest]

But, nikka, that's not God.

That's just being a fukking decent human being. If I'm not judgmental, if I care about other people besides myself, if I try to take in more knowledge to deepen my understanding...how the hell is that God? I don't think it's nearly as mystical or as obscure as you do. Some people are just shallow, but depth is not God.

I am not thinking mystically. Most of the time, I am just being. I feel "God" inside, which is something most "religious" people don't do. Look breh, I recommend you start with reading "Straw Dogs", it's a short book that will change your life. If you're serious about learning how the world works, try that, it's a serious book by a well-respected author, not some conspiracy bullshyt. You will thank me later.

Sounds like a cop-out to me.

It's a cop-out because that's what you expected it to be before you read it. The only place where it's a cop-out is in your head, just like the rest of your feelings and values that you feel are real are only in your head. Liberate yourself breh.

 

[semtex]

I am not thinking mystically. Most of the time, I am just being. I feel "God" inside, which is something most "religious" people don't do. Look breh, I recommend you start with reading "Straw Dogs", it's a short book that will change your life. If you're serious about learning how the world works, try that, it's a serious book by a well-respected author, not some conspiracy bullshyt. You will thank me later.




It's a cop-out because that's what you expected it to be before you read it. The only place where it's a cop-out is in your head, just like the rest of your feelings and values that you feel are real are only in your head. Liberate yourself breh.

let me guess, you're "spiritual"

 

[thegreatest]

let me guess, you're "spiritual"

Let me guess, you're judgmental. You have already made up your mind as to how you feel about anything I'm going to say, why carry on the charade? Go back to your ignorance and let me be.

 

[semtex]

Let me guess, you're judgmental. You have already made up your mind as to how you feel about anything I'm going to say, why carry on the charade? Go back to your ignorance and let me be.

This post is a huge contradiction.

 

[Marvel]

Because that's just what he is. Do not ask me to try and put in words what can not be put in words. You either understand or you don't, it's like being pregnant, you is or you ain't. Look deep inside yourself, seek knowledge and truth and you will find Him, because he is ultimately undeniable.

Clearly, speaking about it and explaining it doesn't work, just look at all the "christians" and other "believers" who leave godless lives... They yap and they yap and they yap and yet they do not grasp the BASIC TENETS of every religion, like "do not judge".... Just look at posters like @Marvel who claim to be godly and yet go against EVERYTHING that He stands for... YOU CANNOT GRASP OR PROCESS GOD WITH YOUR LOGICAL MIND, ONLY ON A DEEPER LEVEL.

God is within you and within me, and that is where you will find understanding. You can not try to learn him by thinking or speaking or taking things literally. He just IS, and when you finally understand that - and most people only do very late in their lives - you will know.

Luke 12
56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?

57 Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?

When you step before a judge, do you tell him "do not judge"? When a cop pulls you over for speeding, do you tell him not to judge according to the law? If your kid break house rules, do you not judge him? Hypocrite.

John 7
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

If any man considers himself godly, let him judge according to the Word of GOD for that is the righteous judgement.

 

[thegreatest]

When you step before a judge, do you tell him "do not judge"? When a cop pulls you over for speeding, do you tell him not to judge according to the law? If your kid break house rules, do you not judge him? Hypocrite.
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You're a cocksucker, I'm not telling you to stop sucking cocks. As you were.

This post is a huge contradiction.

Go away.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Anyone that can't tolerate the views of other people (religious or not) is annoying. A lot of people overestimate the importance of their own opinions, live and let live

theres a limit to this though. Lets not play that game