Christians create the annoying atheists that they hate so much.

[AlmightySu]

I'm not gonna get int all these debates over who is right or wrong or whatever. I choose not to believe in God and the Bible, just can't find myself believing in this stuff. Some people need it as a moral compass to teach them how to be a good person and I understand that, which is why I say to each his own.Even tho plenty Christians have tried to shyt on me when confessing that I am a non believer I know they arent all this way. As a society why can't people just mind their own fukkin business? Who cares what others believe or don't believe?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

but we don't hate yall. I really don't have any beef with you all.
I think its yall who have the problem with us

You make intellectually lazy arguments.

You just do.

But hey, if you want to choose to be a christian, so be it...just don't pretend that makes you immune from pressing inquiries.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

theres a limit to this though. Lets not play that game

What game? When I talk about people who overestimate the importance of their opinions I'm talking about people like YOU. And this is coming from someone who shares the same views as yourself

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

God is love.

Empty statement.

Plus, you're making an assertion.

Prove it.

If you choose to not believe in God then that is your choice.

Just like you don't believe in all the other gods

God will not force his will on anyone.

Why are you reciting these tired talking points from sunday school? Stop speaking on behalf of your arbiter

God will not force you into Heaven against your will.

Whats god's opinion on all the other heavens and hells other people believe in?

That's true love.

or passive aggressive apathy

Leaving someone to their own devices because they choose that path and you let them go.

So god can't even be mad if he doesn't know what I'm going to choose...which means god doesn't know everything

Some of the people here have done it in a relationship. Girl going to college or a job across the country and you can't go. Instead of keeping her down you support her choice. Full expression of love. Even better, how many people have their parents let you live even tho they wanted you close to home. Love.

This has nothing to do with the prescriptions of a judeo-christian deity.

Keep trying.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Agreed. Some want god to be money, women, men, fashion, knowledge, food, art and themselves.

People take God eternal and everlasting and put him through their own filters.

and yet, you play with such an ambiguous term and have no problem doing the intellectually dishonest thing of prescribing all of these vague terms

 

[semtex]

You make intellectually lazy arguments.

You just do.

But hey, if you want to choose to be a christian, so be it...just don't pretend that makes you immune from pressing inquiries.

True, they just say absurd shyt and then be like "prove that it ISN'T true!"

Which first of all is a fundamental logical fallacy, second it's not even worthy of such consideration because like I said, not only is not proven it's not TESTABLE, which is even worse.

 

[thegreatest]

Empty statement.

Plus, you're making an assertion.

Prove it.

Just like you don't believe in all the other gods

Why are you reciting these tired talking points from sunday school? Stop speaking on behalf of your arbiter
Whats god's opinion on all the other heavens and hells other people believe in?
or passive aggressive apathy

So god can't even be mad if he doesn't know what I'm going to choose...which means god doesn't know everything

This has nothing to do with the prescriptions of a judeo-christian deity.

Keep trying.

God doesn't know or not know. Most religious people are idiots, but most atheists are no better. God IS, in everything that exists or has ever been, he is beyond time and space, but he is not a human being with emotions as the old and new testaments show him to be, because the bible is a human creation. God can have no jealousy or anger, he can not be happy or sad, he does not judge or punish or reward. He just is, and we all inhabit the vast is-ness of him. One of the central ideas of religion is that HE can not be understood with the human mind, so why do people argue for or against him logically? He is beyond all of that.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Have you ever felt or given true love? You sound like you haven't.

Why do you make atheists out to be these heartless nihilists?

thats what I am.

But regardless, do you think OTHER religious people aren't "in love" or "felt love?"

And why is "love" the only emotion you focus on? Clearly you have some selective memory of what your god does when he gets "angry..."

Do you have kids? Have you ever known someone to hold their newborn in their arms and know they would do anything in their own power even if it costs them their life to provide and protect for them?

Ask any father or mother here you will see you are in the minority.

And none of this has anything to do with whether or not your god exists.

You sound like a fukking addict or a born again christian who went through something traumatic...or maybe you didn't and you're just gullible.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not here to convince. I'm here to attest.

I can play the semantics game too. I know they trained you street-level apologetics on VHS.

I'm not arguing with you, i'm elevating your cognitive disaspora

I see God in a ton of places

Prove it
.

For example, people see one celled organisms and are like whatever. An Amoeba in its DNA has the equivalent of over 10,000 Encyclopedias Britanica sets of information. We have over 3.2 Billion.

And this is why we know you failed biology.

The length of genetic code says NOTHING about how the DNA is expressed and thats what matters more

This is like day 2 or 3 of BIO 101.

The math was done and proven it is impossible for our DNA to be assembled by chance.

Thats a gross misuse of baynesian statistics and I doubt you even know how that computation was done. Its not even saying what you think it says.

Even better if an atheist doesn't want to believe then cool. I'm not forcing anyone to believe. Just trying to make a compelling argument.

Don't cop pleas to me.

I'm not your friend.

But if you want to make compelling arguments, you're going to have to do so and acknowledge when they're flawed.

I take NO sensitivity to how it affects you.

If we're talking knowledge, lets do that.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

There is a god, and he is one.

Prove it.

No words can describe him and all religions are only mirages and illusions, at best paths that can lead us to Him.

Hinduism LITERALLY disagrees with you.

He - and the understanding of him - is known by many names... Truth, zen, nirvana, science, Allah, Hashem, Jesus, etc... But he Is and he is undeniable, you cannot live your life without some form of belief.

Belief is acceptance of a claim with a lack of evidence.
Trust is acceptance of a claim based on evidence.

The problem is people start to take religion literally, which it was never meant or designed for.

This is the stupidest fukking argument for religion I always hear.

If this is what god REALLY thinks, i don't think he'd want you moving aruond and just picking and choosing.

People hate fundies, but the fundies are at least trying more than the rest of you.

if that was the case, everyone would believe in god, and not everyone does, you dumb fukk. You're the reason people hate those who claim God, spouting some bullshyt half-facts while clearly not knowing what the fukk you're talking about. You're like my relatives who go on and on about "archeologists finding signs that the Hebrews really walked the desert for 40 years"

You're in the same boat as him. Don't pretend you're any less delusional.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Old cats are not on this forum debating this we are. Since you've gotten older in your opinion have things gotten better or worse? Straight up question.

Most people can't paint the Mona Lisa and will say wow, that artist has serious talent and others will say it's just a painting so what. They are 2 for 10 at the swap. In both cases someone painted them despite opinion.

NONE of this has any bearing on whether or not god exists.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I hear you on taking now vs 100 years ago and these trends.

The intrinsically specific tolerances we have and need as humans is not up for debate unless people choose to not believe. I can quote non Christian Nobel winning scientists with regard to that but at the end of the day you believe what you want to and you have that ability.

Nobel prizes in the sciences are awarded not based on faith, but evidence.

Try again.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

youll NEVER catch me saying that i know that there's no "god". i only have a problem with people who claim that they KNOW that the bible or quran is real, because no human knows that. being that there have been a thousand religions, i dont think anyone knows

that being said, if the big bang or evolution happened under some being's watch then maybe they did. i just find it highly unlikely that any human contains intimate knowledge of this being that they gained from some dusty ass novel. and the majority of religious fools who reject evolution, dinosaurs, etc, because they arent in the bible, are the epitome of ignorance

I don't say there is no god. I can't claim to know that.

I'm saying that if you make a claim, its your job to prove it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They would have rather have the ability to decide good from evil rather then God. Problem is they are separated from God with no free will. Only humans possess that trait.

Hilarious.

Whose morality are you using when you don't follow whats in the bible?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

In America, this is truth.....People have God working for them now.....Knew a chick that wanted a E Class drop but didn't have a strong enough down payment.......She finagles a test drive somehow and during the drive she starts sprinkling holy water everywhere and claiming the car in the name of Jesus...........cause of course, J.C. would want her to have a car that she really couldn't afford........

That's what christianity has become

thats what it always is.

Belief resides in the margins of understanding.

I just gave a bomb ass talk on a topic a few days ago and this woman came up to me and said she wanted to thank god for letting her hear what I had to say