Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
Can you rephrase the question? I'm not 100% sure what you mean and I want to be clear.
Christians create the annoying atheists that they hate so much.
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Can you rephrase the question? I'm not 100% sure what you mean and I want to be clear.
This question makes no sense.
I'm engaging in the discussion with people who refuse to support their claims.
OK, thus Kierkegaard.
OK?
And?
Would you rather have died?
This doesn't prove anything
Prove this is going to happen
Where/what did god come from?
I believe in enjoy life also. Sit out in the yard, take trips with the fam. I hear you on that point. My issue is some people want to chop a definition of what they believe in and pick and choose like it's a buffet or something.
This question makes no sense.
I'm engaging in the discussion with people who refuse to support their claims.
OK, thus Kierkegaard.
OK?
And?
Would you rather have died?
This doesn't prove anything
Prove this is going to happen
This is about your belief not mine. I ask you a question based upon your own provided link and you don't understand?
Actually I would have. Do you honestly think Christians when they die are lying about seeing the gates of Heaven open up? What do they have to lie for, who are they lying too?
But then again we all die in the end right?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
Breh, you don't understand what we're talking about. It's that simple. You don't have enough background information for this type of discussion.
I can't attribute gravity to God?
That tells me you don't understand what we're talking about. Finding the strings on a puppet doesn't mean there's no puppeteer. It just means the puppeteer uses strings to move his puppet.
Lying? No.
Confused and deluded based on expectations they've built? Yes.
You expect the story of heaven so anything you didn't understand or conceive of when your brain was in a state of stress was associated by you as being "religious"...but that was merely nothing else than a physiological response to a harrowing situation.
I think they didn't understand what happened to them.
Prove this bolded statement.Breh, you don't understand what we're talking about. It's that simple. You don't have enough background information for this type of discussion.
I can't attribute gravity to God?
That tells me you don't understand what we're talking about. Finding the strings on a puppet doesn't mean there's no puppeteer. It just means the puppeteer uses strings to move his puppet.
See, I'm not saying you're wrong. You COULD be right...but UNTIL you prove it, then you can't pretend that your constant theorizing and speculation equates to hardline empiricism and proof of anything.
thegreatest
Pro
That's fine with me too. People should be free to believe what they want to believe. If that's what makes them happy, then I'm happy for them too.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
I Got Game
Where/what did god come from?
No beginning, no end. By definition. Your question isn't really valid. It's like asking who painted the artist or who cooked the chef.
@tmonster
Here are part of my science basis.
1. The Cosmological Argument -
Everything that had a beginning had a cause. The universe had a beginning. Therefore the universe had a cause. This is weighed on the fundamental principle of science The Law of Causality.
2. The Teleological Argument -
Every design had a designer. The universe has highly complex design. Therefore, the universe had a designer. Anthropic Constant 1 regarding oxygen level to which if it were not 21% of the atmosphere the results would be catastrophic for humans. AC #2 regarding Atmospheric Transparency to which if the specific degree changed we would not be here. AC #3 regarding the Moon-Earth Gravitational Interaction to which if it were greater or lesser we would not be here. AC #4 regarding Carbon Dioxide Level if it were higher we would all burn up, if lower we would suffocate. AC #5 regarding Gravity to which if the gravitational force were altered by 10^40 we would not be here.
The Anthropic Principle states 1. If the centrifugal force of the planetary movement did not precisely balance the gravitational forces, nothing could be held in orbit around the sun.
2. If the universe had expanded at a rate one millionth more slowly then it did, expansion would have stopped and collapsed on itself and if faster no galaxies would have formed.
3. If Jupiter were not in its current orbit the earth would be bombarded with space junk.
Etc. The thickness out the earth's crust, the rotation of the earth, water vapor levels in the atmosphere, the 23 degree tilt of the earth, the rate of lightning discharges and more seismic activity.
Here are part of my science basis.
1. The Cosmological Argument -
Everything that had a beginning had a cause. The universe had a beginning. Therefore the universe had a cause. This is weighed on the fundamental principle of science The Law of Causality.
2. The Teleological Argument -
Every design had a designer. The universe has highly complex design. Therefore, the universe had a designer. Anthropic Constant 1 regarding oxygen level to which if it were not 21% of the atmosphere the results would be catastrophic for humans. AC #2 regarding Atmospheric Transparency to which if the specific degree changed we would not be here. AC #3 regarding the Moon-Earth Gravitational Interaction to which if it were greater or lesser we would not be here. AC #4 regarding Carbon Dioxide Level if it were higher we would all burn up, if lower we would suffocate. AC #5 regarding Gravity to which if the gravitational force were altered by 10^40 we would not be here.
The Anthropic Principle states 1. If the centrifugal force of the planetary movement did not precisely balance the gravitational forces, nothing could be held in orbit around the sun.
2. If the universe had expanded at a rate one millionth more slowly then it did, expansion would have stopped and collapsed on itself and if faster no galaxies would have formed.
3. If Jupiter were not in its current orbit the earth would be bombarded with space junk.
Etc. The thickness out the earth's crust, the rotation of the earth, water vapor levels in the atmosphere, the 23 degree tilt of the earth, the rate of lightning discharges and more seismic activity.
OG_StankBrefs
Da Spice...
400 years later...Inherited their surnames and will die defendin da same religious beliefs used to justify our capture and torment.
...dat Stockholm syndrome is no joke.
...dat Stockholm syndrome is no joke.
Is there a name for what u believe?
It has been said many times that the deathbed is the greatest time of clarity you will have in your life.
And you are wrong about my mental state of stress as being religious at the time. I was not a Christian at the time.
So lemme ask u a question pleghboi
Its safe to assume that ur belief system is one of a nihilistic view since u seem to say that teachin ur kids all things that are not 100% scientific fact is unloving lemme ask
When u raise ur kids are u raising ur kids with the idea of right and wrong??
Cuz if u are ur no different because morality and right and wrong in the realm of morality cant be proven and within ur worldview no view of right and wrong can be objectively justified
Another question..when raising your kids are u raising them with the idea that humans are anything of value intrinsically??
Cuz if u are again u commit the same "sin" ur ranting against seeing as how within the constructs of your worldview there is no purpose, worth or meaning to existence apart from what we give ourselves so objectively..no one here is of value so teaching ur kid he's a being of value and humans alike are, would be a lie just like u suppose religion is
So tell me what is it ur raising ur kids on and trust believe Im gon nitpick every single thing in your post to find contradiction with what u claim to believe and what u say
