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Chuck D On Straight Outta Compton & No Public Enemy Movie
- Thread starter IronFist
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it will be based on tao of the wu..possible but shyt man..plenty of the wu ahem odb estate and rae will be boycotting it..hahahah
comfortablynumbd
Rookie
Lol pe is garbage after nation of millions. Outside of that 3 mediocre albums and like 10 garbage ones nobody remembers with shytty corny titles like new world odor. Somehow they have more Cred than nwa because they are political lol. They're overall catalogue is garbage and their influence nonexistent past their initial relevance.
Big Mel
@bigboss
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
I agree 100%
Fawk nikkas tried to give me grief for stating facts about how these fakkits contributed to the high incarceration among black folks
Yelling fawk the cops for brutality and disrespect, but then glorify community destruction with drug selling and violence
Then comes the fans, who will be talmbowt white supremacy and the system of racism, but then defend NWA's antics in and out of the booth
Fawk nikkas tried to give me grief for stating facts about how these fakkits contributed to the high incarceration among black folks
Yelling fawk the cops for brutality and disrespect, but then glorify community destruction with drug selling and violence
Then comes the fans, who will be talmbowt white supremacy and the system of racism, but then defend NWA's antics in and out of the booth
Big Mel
@bigboss
did they cover Eazy E's dinner at the white house during Bush 1's presidency?
A little bit. During the meeting in New York when Eazy and Cube met Cube said, "How did you go from the crack house, to the white house." Then they both start laughing.
Big Mel
@bigboss
This movie seems awful.
OG Talk
Archived
Some of yall are misrepresenting Chuck's opinions in this thread..I listened to the whole thing.. Lets not pretend that Chuck isn't friends with the members of NWA and doesn't have respect for their contributions..
What he said about "Hollywood doesnt want to make a movie where Black men win at the end" is nonsense.. That's exactly how Straight Outta Compton ended for Cube and Dre
What he said about "Hollywood doesnt want to make a movie where Black men win at the end" is nonsense.. That's exactly how Straight Outta Compton ended for Cube and Dre
Strongly disagree.
Not gonna go into why just in case I ever get a chance to pitch ideas for $.
Nobody was sitting around pining for a NWA movie until it was marketed at them.
ArchStanton
All Star
This is true to a degree, but not that simple, either. First, Chuck D was the first one to tell a major to take a hike (Def Jam) in order to release music directly to the internet in the form of Bring the Noise 2000 followed up by There's a Poison Going On. So Chuck has owned all of his masters and music since around 2000, and when movies came calling for "Can't Truss It" and "Fight the Power" he went in and re-recorded them in order to utilize those masters for film (like American Gangster). Chuck has been on the independent grind for years now. And he was one of the first artists to support Napster. PE also created the blueprint for having a live show that could actually deliver in a major arena setting and compete with big rock acts.
PE has had some offspring as well, namely Busta Rhymes (via Leaders of the New School--Chuck D is the one that gave Busta his name). And you could argue that they kept Ice Cube hot when he was at a crossroads (he probably would've been all right, but Amerikkka's Most Wanted wouldn't have been as big of a deal without PE and the Bomb Squad's involvement--they made it a classic).
One thing I respect about Chuck D is that when he goes on tour, he'll often bring along some forgotten rappers and give them some work, and they usually deliver as opening acts. First time I saw PE live, they had X-Clan opening for them and Monie Love.
If I was going to do a PE movie, I would probably look at telling it from one of the S1W's viewpoint or something like that, I don't think I would focus in on Chuck D or Flav. Sometimes I think these biopics err in making us try to see it through the big star's eyes when we can't really get on that level. It's a hard movie to make, because Chuck is notoriously clean living and Flav's antics are kind of too well known by now and cliche for a biopic. I would focus in on the death threats Chuck used to get, the pressure of being made to drop Griff (which he calls his biggest mistake), and of trying to go indy. You'd also have the Europe angle where they went and killed it over there before they made it big in the US. And culminate with them scoring a big hit with "Harder Than You Think" and the rock and roll hall of fame, with some Flav hi-jinks mixed in between just like he's mixed in on a PE album.
ArchStanton
All Star
Some of yall are misrepresenting Chuck's opinions in this thread..I listened to the whole thing.. Lets not pretend that Chuck isn't friends with the members of NWA and doesn't have respect for their contributions..
What he said about "Hollywood doesnt want to make a movie where Black men win at the end" is nonsense.. That's exactly how Straight Outta Compton ended for Cube and Dre
I would guess he's saying where black men win and don't end up either breaking up or dead like Eazy did. But yeah, that would be a poor way of phrasing it.
ArchStanton
All Star
Oh, shyt, I nearly forgot about the MLK Day angle in Arizona. What was more badass than that? They stood down a whole state.
And to break down the black man winning line, he might also mean a black man winning without ever selling drugs, resorting to violence, etc. By all accounts Chuck D is one of the nicest stars out there and didn't create a bunch of drama to make it, but always had a plan and marched to the beat of his own drummer at times. The PE story is not going to contain many of those stereotypes and so forth of the gangster making good that Hollywood loves.
And to break down the black man winning line, he might also mean a black man winning without ever selling drugs, resorting to violence, etc. By all accounts Chuck D is one of the nicest stars out there and didn't create a bunch of drama to make it, but always had a plan and marched to the beat of his own drummer at times. The PE story is not going to contain many of those stereotypes and so forth of the gangster making good that Hollywood loves.
ArchStanton
All Star
Subliminal? "I got a letter the other, from the government, I opened and read it, they said they were suckers!"
Or:
"Elvis was a hero to most
But he never meant, to me you see
Straight up racist that sucker was
Simple and plain
Mother, him and John Wayne
'Cause I'm Black and I'm proud
I'm ready and hyped plus I'm amped
Most of my heroes don't appear on no stamps
Sample a look back you look and find
Nothing but rednecks for four hundred years if you check
Don't worry be happy
Was a number one jam
Damn if I say it you can slap me right here
(Get it) lets get this party started right
Right on, c'mon
What we got to say
Power to the people no delay
To make everybody see
In order to fight the powers that be"
SpacelySprockets
Veteran
lol @ the emotional 
fakkits in this thread pissed because nwa had a movie before public enemy like the general public gives a fukk about any of their former members in 2015 besides the hype man whos only relevant for a reality show with more c00nery than the whole nikkaz4life album
its fukking hilarious seeing how public enemy fans on forums all of a sudden are shytting on nwa calling them studio gangstas, government agents, c00ns and all types of shyt just to big up public enemy.. if u wanna give public enemy props and want them to have a movie go ahead but the fact that u gotta shyt on nwa and try to diminish their impact just because theyre the rap group from the 80s that people still care about today shows youre an emotional hating crab in a bucket ass fukkboy
theres no agenda as to why nwa got a movie before public enemy, its as simple as ice cube being a fukking huge actor for over 20 years with hollywood connections and his own company and dr dre being a billionaire music mogul with a roster of so many rappers who went platinum and arguably ran the game at one point consistently for 20+ years
fakkits in this thread pissed because nwa had a movie before public enemy like the general public gives a fukk about any of their former members in 2015 besides the hype man whos only relevant for a reality show with more c00nery than the whole nikkaz4life albumits fukking hilarious seeing how public enemy fans on forums all of a sudden are shytting on nwa calling them studio gangstas, government agents, c00ns and all types of shyt just to big up public enemy.. if u wanna give public enemy props and want them to have a movie go ahead but the fact that u gotta shyt on nwa and try to diminish their impact just because theyre the rap group from the 80s that people still care about today shows youre an emotional hating crab in a bucket ass fukkboy
theres no agenda as to why nwa got a movie before public enemy, its as simple as ice cube being a fukking huge actor for over 20 years with hollywood connections and his own company and dr dre being a billionaire music mogul with a roster of so many rappers who went platinum and arguably ran the game at one point consistently for 20+ years
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