Clair Obscur Expedition 33 ending discussion

[My Girl is Bow Legged]

I chose maelle cause I had her gassed the fukk up and she carried me through the endgame content I wasn't finna switch up

renoir and verso were right tho

basically it was the nier automata ending mixed with the persona 5 royale "bad" ending that wasn't really bad. arguments can be made for both. great game

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Verso’s ending really does suck

 

[HiiiPower]

Verso’s ending really does suck

Nah, Its way better than Maells’s, it’s nice for a moment to see everybody co-existing and seeing Gustave again…until you realise Verso is miserable being forced to live a life he doesn’t want as Maelle pulls all the strings while slowly dying in the outside

Unless you’re just referring to seeing your friends fade away, I knew that’s what I was choosing but it still hurt seeing it

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Nah, Its way better than Maells’s, it’s nice for a moment to see everybody co-existing and seeing Gustave again…until you realise Verso is miserable being forced to live a life he doesn’t want as Maelle pulls all the strings while slowly dying in the outside

Unless you’re just referring to seeing your friends fade away, I knew that’s what I was choosing but it still hurt seeing it

It’s two depressing, bad endings though. Even if you think it’s better than Maelles, you’re still pretty much wiping away tons of life for the sake or who…? Renoir and his wife being happier/healthier?

I don’t beleive the Dessendre’s deserve happiness more than Sciel or Lune. Who yes, i value as real people i journied and trauma bonded with for 40+ hours. If you don’t believe in the journey of the expeditions and see them as real people then the game is kind of pointless.

you wouldn’t play this if you knew from the beginning you were only doing all this to heal a mourning family Who you have no real connection with.

like i said before, if at the end of the next FF7 game if they told you everyone you played as and interacted with for the past two games were fake and there was some outside family controlling everything that you had to sacrifice those characters for, no one would do it. Nor would you suddenly stop caring about the lives of tifa, barret, Marlene, Red XIII, etc. just because an all knowing entity told you they weren’t real.

we’re playing a video game, we’re going into it with the meta-knowledge that none of it is real anyway.

 

[HiiiPower]

It’s two depressing, bad endings though. Even if you think it’s better than Maelles, you’re still pretty much wiping away tons of life for the sake or who…? Renoir and his wife being happier/healthier?

I don’t beleive the Dessendre’s deserve happiness more than Sciel or Lune. Who yes, i value as real people i journied and trauma bonded with for 40+ hours. If you don’t believe in the journey of the expeditions and see them as real people then the game is kind of pointless.

you wouldn’t play this if you knew from the beginning you were only doing all this to heal a mourning family Who you have no real connection with.

like i said before, if at the end of the next FF7 game if they told you everyone you played as and interacted with for the past two games were fake and there was some outside family controlling everything that you had to sacrifice those characters for, no one would do it. Nor would you suddenly stop caring about the lives of tifa, barret, Marlene, Red XIII, etc. just because an all knowing entity told you they weren’t real.

we’re playing a video game, we’re going into it with the meta-knowledge that none of it is real anyway.

I’m not saying that, I love these characters, and I’m not saying Versos is a happy ending either..

I’m just saying I don’t like the idea of Maelle essentially becoming a dictator while dying on the outside, or Verso being miserable in purgatory, while for all we know those versions of Lune, Sciel ect arent even the same ones we knew, Maelle has no problem forcing Verso to live his life as a performing monkey, everybody else isn’t safe either

 

[42 Monks]

Verso’s ending really does suck

the optional stuff really changes the interpretation of the endings .....like substantially

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

I’m not saying that, I love these characters, and I’m not saying Versos is a happy ending either..

I’m just saying I don’t like the idea of Maelle essentially becoming a dictator while dying on the outside, or Verso being miserable in purgatory, while for all we know those versions of Lune, Sciel ect arent even the same ones we knew, Maelle has no problem forcing Verso to live his life as a performing monkey, everybody else isn’t safe either

The problem with this is there’s like a lot left open to interpretation or assumption. Like yeah, we know it looks bad and we know maelle is sacrificing her life to stay in the painting….

some real facts -

• Maelle‘s entire reality for the past 15 years in the canvas is as real to her as your current reality is, those are her loved ones, her world
• Maelle’s actual life outside the canvas is compromised, she feels unwanted and unloved by her ’real’ family and she lives in pain, in silence and half blind. She’s permenantly disfigured
• There’s actual danger in the real world outside of living in a painting, they’re at ’war’ with other people who already killed a family member of theirs
• if she leaves the canvas everything she’s known for what feels like her entire life gets destroyed

with Maelles ending all we know is that Verso is unhappy and maelle staying in the painting isn’t healthy.

 

[5n0man]

Also didn’t notice if it was mentioned yet but Monoco and Noco were the names of Verso’s two dogs. You can see their names on their collar in the painting.
I saw someone else mention that esquié was the name of one of his toys but I didn’t catch that in the game.

You can actually see the two dogs sleeping by the fireplace during the epilogue at the end of act 2. Alicia says their names when you interact with them.

 

[5n0man]

Verso’s ending really does suck

It was objectively the right choice. Maelle's ending was essentially her running away from her problems and choosing to live an illusion.

 

[42 Monks]

It was objectively the right choice. Maelle's ending was essentially her running away from her problems and choosing to live an illusion.

verso is wiping out a pocket dimension because he's legit worse off

the fact he got the nerve to get mad about anything while his goal is a grand suicide and nothing else gets glossed over like crazy

 

[Doomsday]

with Maelles ending all we know is that Verso is unhappy and maelle staying in the painting isn’t healthy.

If it wasn't for one scene, Maelle would easily have the better ending of the two.

I realize people just like Verso, so they're justifying his ending with implicit bias.

 

[42 Monks]

If it wasn't for one scene, Maelle would have easily the better ending of the two.

I realize people just like Verso, so they're justifying his ending with implicit bias.

even now "maelle would never leave the canvas" is only something that an exhausted renior and desperate verso said

i still think people skipping optional stuff before doing the ending leaves folks with an incomplete picture too. painted alicia doesn't even take him seriously

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

It was objectively the right choice. Maelle's ending was essentially her running away from her problems and choosing to live an illusion.

Nothing wrong with running away from your problems tbh, especially when you’re living as a disfigured burn victim, yeah most of us would rather live an alternative ‘illusion’ of a life At that point. People do it everyday in the real world.

…and ‘illusion’ is kind of the key word here. Once again, you have to totally disregard the idea that Lune, Sciel, Gustave, etc. are real people with their own free will, emotions, ambitions, etc. and if you do that then the game essentially becomes pointless.

If by the end of the game you really don’t give a fukk about anyone in lumiere, then you could have just sat down at the last gommage, cancelled the next 10 or so expeditions and let everyone eventually get Wiped if all you want is to help the Dessendre’s. Thats essentially Renoir and Clea’s long term plan.

 

[DarkandHellisHot]

with Maelles ending all we know is that Verso is unhappy and maelle staying in the painting isn’t healthy.

that's the price for the end of act 1. So fukk him.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

that's the price for the end of act 1. So fukk him.

Also, the fact that he just gets to ’decide’ for everyone else just doesn’t sit right wiith me. It’s like he went along with everyone (gets buns from Sciel) only to betray them in the end, just like the other expedition.

he’s the biggest manipulator of the game