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Beyonce has the "it" factor. I think her music is terrible, but no one can deny that. She just looks like a star.
I wouldn't say that. When Destiny's Child first came out did you think she was the most beautiful woman you ever seen? In my opinion she wasn't even finer than Irish from 702 at the time.
 

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Lets not act like a pretty face is the only thing leading to stardom. Bey works hard, is a top notch performer, makes hits and is consistent. For every Bey, there are hundreds of Tierra Marie's, Ciara's, Mya's, Amerie's, Keri Hilson's etc.
I repeat, if Sony put the machine behind Amerie she would still be relevant today. The radio don't play Beyoncé's records because they are just so great musically. A lot goes into making sure she stays in rotation. A lot goes into making sure she gets performances at every awards show. If Beyoncé left Sony today and went independent you would see just how little talent matters in the grand scheme of things. As big as Beyoncé is and as business saavy that she is, please tell me why you don't think she's left Sony by now if she could accomplish the same shyt independently and keep all the money? As soon as she does that the radio spins go away as well as the MTV awards and the Grammy Performances and all the perks of being backed by a major. Jay is her husband, why not sign to Roc Nation and get independent distribution if all she needs is her talent and looks?
 

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:laff: she's an R&B diva? this is news. her career ended exactly where it started: under wyclef. she didn't even last a year.

and beyonce FORCED her way up the top. she literally destroyed lives in order to be where she's @ so naw, she didn't earn her spot.
 

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Beyonce had the looks, talent, and charisma. Is her music cookie cutter? Absolutely, but these bytches eat that shyt up.


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Why do they eat it up? Because they are being forced fed daily on the radio is why. They were being forced fed visually when MTV still played videos. If they forced fed them bishes Keyshia Cole again they would eat that shyt up too.
 

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And Beyoncé is a superior singer and dancer right? There's nobody out there that looks good and can hit those same notes while dancing right? When you saw Michael Jackson you knew you was seeing a once in a lifetime talent. His personality his look and the songs HE wrote separated him as well as the dance moves.

beyonce can't sing nor can she dance. don't let the media fool you.
 

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Why do they eat it up? Because they are being forced fed daily on the radio is why. They were being forced fed visually when MTV still played videos. If they forced fed them bishes Keyshia Cole again they would eat that shyt up too.

exactly, people are sheep. you put a fire underneath somebody's ass, give them all the promotion, play their videos, songs, and put them everywhere, people are going to eventually believe the hype. most artists that are BIG these days wouldn't be where they're @ if it wasn't for the hype machine whether they have talent or not.
 

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I repeat, if Sony put the machine behind Amerie she would still be relevant today. The radio don't play Beyoncé's records because they are just so great musically. A lot goes into making sure she stays in rotation. A lot goes into making sure she gets performances at every awards show. If Beyoncé left Sony today and went independent you would see just how little talent matters in the grand scheme of things. As big as Beyoncé is and as business saavy that she is, please tell me why you don't think she's left Sony by now if she could accomplish the same shyt independently and keep all the money? As soon as she does that the radio spins go away as well as the MTV awards and the Grammy Performances and all the perks of being backed by a major. Jay is her husband, why not sign to Roc Nation and get independent distribution if all she needs is her talent and looks?

I like how you underestimate the brand she's built as well as the tens of millions of fans who adore her. You need to have the "it" factor or intangibles as well as the technical execution...the promotional push is just icing on the cake. Her fans didn't like her just cuz she got promo (Cassie and Tierra Marie both get/got pushes from their labels, yet they suck so fans aren't buying it) her fans got her to the point of where she's at cuz she's a BOSS at what she does.

And stop with the "take away the major label" bullshyt, damn near all transcendent artists are/were on a major - Michael Jackson, janet, Mariah, whitney, Madonna, Britney, Rihanna, Celine dion, etc. - and no one handicaps their chart performance or accomplishments because of it. ,that independent shyt is for nikkas/internet famous artists who can't get signed to lucrative deals from the majors so they rationalize their status on an independent.
 

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I repeat, if Sony put the machine behind Amerie she would still be relevant today. The radio don't play Beyoncé's records because they are just so great musically. A lot goes into making sure she stays in rotation. A lot goes into making sure she gets performances at every awards show. If Beyoncé left Sony today and went independent you would see just how little talent matters in the grand scheme of things. As big as Beyoncé is and as business saavy that she is, please tell me why you don't think she's left Sony by now if she could accomplish the same shyt independently and keep all the money? As soon as she does that the radio spins go away as well as the MTV awards and the Grammy Performances and all the perks of being backed by a major. Jay is her husband, why not sign to Roc Nation and get independent distribution if all she needs is her talent and looks?

Amerie definitely should have been more of a successful artist than she was/is.
 
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Beyoncé is big because of her team. Sony made sure she got with the best songwriters/producers and video directors. The way she was set up she couldn't lose. Some would say in 01-02 her and Ashanti were neck and neck before the Jay-Z connection lifted her to Queen status. She had that Sony Machine behind her which is responsible for the constant radio play and constant video spins.

Exactly, this post is the truth! :wow:
 
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