Comment: Why the US could no longer win a war against China

[Serious]

1 word: blockade

 

[Master Teacher]

USA would win. In an all out war, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, India, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Japan are ALL allies of the USA and have grievances with China. North Korea and Russia are their only real alliances over there. Of course if it went nuclear it wouldn’t be pretty.

all those countries are too small to be a factor and rely on the US military to protect them from China are you serious

There's a political party in Japan that wants to restore the military because they don't believe the US can protect them from China

The US has never won an all out war, and only became a super power because everybody else was decimated by World War 2, and the US was untouched because zero battles took place on the United States mainland, Americans are delusional because they never had to deal with war on US soil since the civil war and have no idea what its like, if America was attack for real most people will fold up quick and become traitors

 

[BlackJesus]

The problem with what you are saying is that Americans have ruined their own names all over the world especially among black and brown nations.

You are not talking about geo political realities. The reality is even more so thanks to corona nobody, especially their neighbors, likes China.

Nobody likes China’s current level of aggression. Nobody likes their debt trap deals. Nobody likes that they are building islands and making claims in the South Pacific like some sort of geopolitical deebo.

China is now also shooting itself in the foot with Hong Kong, xinjiang and Taiwan and the US has nothing to do with the self defeating policies it’s pursuing in that regard.

US selling overpriced weapons pales in comparison to these realities. So China is selling you cheap knockoffs, but at what price?

 

[JT-Money]

USA would win. In an all out war, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, India, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Japan are ALL allies of the USA and have grievances with China. North Korea and Russia are their only real alliances over there. Of course if it went nuclear it wouldn’t be pretty.

People underestimate just how much other Asian countries hate China. The only true ally they have might be North Korea. Even with the Asian people I worked with from all over South East Asia none of them had any good things to say about China.

 

[Marc Spector]

Defense hoe babble to get more funding


How yall think Space Force was set up?


I dont deny that China is a threat and does do a lot of fukk shyt but their threat to us is more existential than physical.

The Taiwan/9 lines shyt is spooky but I personally feel like China knows how good they have it being a economic powerhouse off of Western outsourcing and is risking all of that worth it just to retake Taiwan, who unlike HK has a military and has ON PIRU said that they will fight China until the bitter end?

 

[African Peasant]

Defense hoe babble to get more funding


How yall think Space Force was set up?


I dont deny that China is a threat and does do a lot of fukk shyt but their threat to us is more existential than physical.

The Taiwan/9 lines shyt is spooky but I personally feel like China knows how good they have it being a economic powerhouse off of Western outsourcing and is risking all of that worth it just to retake Taiwan, who unlike HK has a military and has ON PIRU said that they will fight China until the bitter end?

True.

China is not thirsty to take Taiwan now.

China knows time is on its side. It's bidding his time.

 

[intruder]

US doesn’t actually need to fight an actual war to beat China. Just contain them and build alliances with neighboring countries and economically isolate them.

Their 3 to 1 gdp to debt ratio and the ongoing economic fallout from the coronavirus will unravel them further.

It will come to a point where they won’t even be able to afford a war, much less fight one.

If it came to war India is a key ally. US could wait until they make a move on India then provide air and naval support and tag team their asses.

Adding to my previous post above...

That scandal when it was found that the U.S. had tapped the phones of everyone in the Brazilian government after they purchased U.S. made communications systems didnt help either. That made Cisco lose a lof of money and a lot of customers flooded to Huawei (chinese company) as a result.

So because of that Brazil barred US manufacturers from competing in their jet fighter competition and Sweden and France eventually got the contract.

Canada pulled out of the F-35 deal over the Boeing vs Bombadier court case and have decided to buy used older fighters rather than buy new fighters to replace their aging US-made F-18 fleet. They are seriously considering the Grippen Deal from the Swedish rather than buy AMerican again

Last but not least, many countries are reexamining their buy in of the U.S. made F-35 fighter after it was found that the F-35s were sending mission-related data back to the U.S. I wanna say it was the Israelis or the Turkish who caught that shyt and made it public which angered the Pentagon.

So again good luck thinking people are begging to be your ally like that. All this stuff i mentionened are googleable

 

[CopiousX]

The US has never won an all out war, and only became a super power because everybody else was decimated by World War 2, and the US was untouched because zero battles took place on the United States mainland, Americans are delusional because they never had to deal with war on US soil since the civil war and have no idea what its like, if America was attack for real most people will fold up quick and become traitors

You seem to be implying that China could actually project their influence accross 7000miles of pacific ocean with only 2 carriers.



Literally ever island nation around China is a US buffer state with navy/marines/airforce bases.



That theoretical point could never occur. The US will still be untouched in any possible China conflict. Also, all that anit-soviet infrastructure is still in place

 

[Gold]

US doesn’t actually need to fight an actual war to beat China. Just contain them and build alliances with neighboring countries and economically isolate them.

Their 3 to 1 gdp to debt ratio and the ongoing economic fallout from the coronavirus will unravel them further.

It will come to a point where they won’t even be able to afford a war, much less fight one.

If it came to war India is a key ally. US could wait until they make a move on India then provide air and naval support and tag team their asses.

You are vastly overstating the Goodwill and Global standing 2020 USA has.

Not saying the US couldn't win... they could win easily actually. But imo the way you mentioned wont be as easy

 

[Master Teacher]

You seem to be implying that China could actually project their influence accross 7000miles of pacific ocean with only 2 carriers.



Literally ever island nation around China is a US buffer state with navy/marines/airforce bases.



That theoretical point could never occur. The US will still be untouched in any possible China conflict. Also, all that anit-soviet infrastructure is still in place

You sound like an idiot

carriers are just sitting ducks in modern warfare and would be a none factor in a new war

chinese aren't invaders, so the United States would be the one trying to invade, and they would get destroyed, which is why they would never try it

 

[goatmane]

The rich Chinese elite class don't want a damn war with the USA so it will never happen.

Life is good for them

There's no blood feud between us and them either.

 

[Vandelay]

Headline is misleading.

US probably couldn't defend Taiwan successfully.

If the US and China went to all out war, we're all dead.

But the thing people discount is, China and US like making money. They're not going to torpedo everyone's economy over Taiwan.

 

[Red Shield]

This isn't surprising at all, the usa didn't want smoke with China back in the early 2000s.

The time for the usa to try to contain China was probably 15-20 years ago. Now their far stronger militarily and economically. And the Chinese aren't stupid.. they see what plays could have been ran against them, and negated some shyt.

The usa is not going to be able to build any alliances in that area of the world outside of India and Australia. And India would have Pakistan to worry about in a fight like that. The Koreans and Japanese aren't gonna want their countries turned into rubble for the USA's sake. Because let's keep it 100%, the usa ain't rebuilding or helping with any of that shyt. Hell countries like Vietnam and Thailand will probably be mid-income level in 10-20 more years, their not about to squander that. Even though they have issues with China.

Hell the Chinese couldn't even really be economically isolated either.. because Chinese folk own a bunch of those factories in places like Nam, Thailand, Cambodia, etc.. so any manufacturing taken out of China and sent to those places.. well

 

[intruder]

You are not talking about geo political realities. The reality is even more so thanks to corona nobody, especially their neighbors, likes China.

Nobody likes China’s current level of aggression. Nobody likes their debt trap deals. Nobody likes that they are building islands and making claims in the South Pacific like some sort of geopolitical deebo.

China is now also shooting itself in the foot with Hong Kong, xinjiang and Taiwan and the US has nothing to do with the self defeating policies it’s pursuing in that regard.

US selling overpriced weapons pales in comparison to these realities. So China is selling you cheap knockoffs, but at what price?

I feel like you americans are delusional in their views of geopolitics because you only see things from within the US news domain.

If you were from any other country you'd know that what China is doing is no different than what the U.S., France, Canada and the British have done since the 1950s. China is just the new bully on the block where there are a lot of bulies...mainly WHITE bullies.

Why do you think Obama rushed to Jamaica in 2014? To vacae? No doggy. Jamaica was considering signing a deal with China (and they did) just as many countries in South in Central America have been able to do and do well with. A lot of these nations used to give ALL of their development contracts to US and Canadian and French and British companies and been burned by it for DECADES. So that drove them in to the arms of the Chinese once new contracts were up.

• Who has had a torturous embargo on Cuba for 62 years? United States
• Who has manipulated the elections and abused their power over Panama since the 70s? United States
• Who continues to be an agressor against argentinians over the the falkland islands dispute? United Kingdom
• Who has torpedoed Haitians by backing the overthrowing of a democratically elected president and then putting a 4 year embargo on the entire country to (so called) punish the perpatrators of the coup they later admitted to backing? United States, France and Canada
• Who do they see bombing black and brown people and backing Israeli agression in the middle east? USA, France, UK
• Who do West africans see consistently disrupting african nations ability to self-govern and ripped off for their natural resources? France, UK, etc

Again doggy try to surround yourself with people who are not from here and you'll get the full story. China aint doing shyt that the US and its goons havent done. You've just gotten used to and embraced that these abuses are done by white faces. Now it's asian and you wanna side with massa

 

[Sex Luthor]

The US is the greatest country in the world at playing the tough guy. Always screaming about being the most powerful country in the world and the most free but as this coronavirus proved, it's all pump faking.

general soleimani said they was gonna pop off. So we killed him. You want to see our data that showed an attack was imminent? Ok

We got this pandemic under control. WHO and China started this shyt. We don't need either of them

If North Korea don't stop testing weapons we'll bomb them off the map

This country fronting like a bytch with a knock off Gucci purse. It's been like this longer than most people realize