Comment: Why the US could no longer win a war against China

[AyBrehHam Linkin]

Not a lot of countries will be ready to fight China just for Taiwan.

Il the US does not move, no one is gonna do shyt.

We'll have to see, fact is, it wont be a good look for them at all.

Hell Taiwan will fukkround and beat them lmfao.

 

[qwer]

The problem with what you are saying is that Americans have ruined their own names all over the world especially among black and brown nations.

The Indians are at war with Pakistanis and they see all the STRINGS the US attaches to weapons deals with Pakistanis and they want no part of that shyt. They look at it as "We buy weapons from you we should be able to use them however we choose" while US wants you to buy its weapons and also tell you how you can and cant use it.

The U.S. state department sanctioned the Pakistanis for using some of the F-16s they bought from the U.S. because of the way they were used fighting against the indian airforce just last year. See below article:
https://www.usnews.com/news/world-r...n-in-august-for-misusing-f-16s-document-shows

Thats the reason many countries stay away from the US in terms of military equipment.

Russia and China sell you shyt and you use it how you see fit. Americans wanna sell you the shyt, charge you up to 5 times (not an exaggeration) what it would cost you to get comparable if not better weapons elsewhere, want you to pay an enormous amount for the upkeep/maintenance contracts, and have the nerve to wanna tell you how and when to use it. Oh.. did i mention that they also want to make sure you only buy from them and wont buy from Russia or else they sanction you again. (See Turkey's F-35 deal that got killed because Turkey decided to buy Russian S400 missile system as opposed to US Patriot system)

So all these policies by US lawmakers are having all these countries run into the arms of China and Russia because of no-strings attached

That is a reason the Indians didnt jump on the F-21 deal the US offered them last year. Russian offers no-strings attached and even technology transfer to allow indian manufacturers to build assemble some of the planes which brings jobs to the indian economy. The US (after years of refusing to do so while its competitors have been for years) is now finally open to the idea of technology transfer but they still want all sorts of strings attached.

The only country the U.S. ever does technology-transfer deal with are British and Israel.

Edit: Also, that scandal when it was found that the U.S. had tapped the phones of everyone in the Brazilian government after they purchased U.S. made communications systems didnt help either. That made Cisco lose a lof of money and a lot of customers flooded to Huawei (chinese company) as a result.

So because of that Brazil barred US manufacturers from competing in their jet fighter competition and Sweden and France eventually got the contract.

Canada pulled out of the F-35 deal over the Boeing vs Bombadier court case and have decided to buy used older fighters rather than buy new fighters to replace their aging US-made F-18 fleet.

Last but not least, many countries are reexamining their buy in of the U.S. made F-35 fighter after it was found that the F-35s were sending mission-related data back to the U.S. I wanna say it was the Israelis or the Turkish who caught that shyt and made it public which angered the Pentagon.

So again good luck thinking people are begging to be your ally like that

You see it’s commentary like this that makes me love thecoli and not want to leave the site

 

[Pirius Black]

Carriers are floating Maginot lines that are too big to sail. Scratch a flattop, you lose 4,000+ crew and billions of dollars on equipment. Submarines are a far better and less costly option. Look at the cost overruns on the Gerald Ford.

 

[Mensch Fontana]

what ever weapons you think the us has, it has shyt 15yrs more advanced

 

[The M.I.C.]

There’s four potential global war theaters where China can offset US military power and those four theaters, including the Continental United States, involve cooperation with Russia.

Confronting China by themselves..I am not worried about neither are the men with star power. The problem is that China is networked with countries that are not our friends and can cause us all types of logistical, tactical issues in war planning. Fighting China by themselves is a fool’s dream because Russia and in small part, Iran, would get involved and the battlefield would most certainly become global in scale.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

I keep telling ya'll there will never be a war with China

That's Endgame. Over. Done. All life on the planet will be erased and decimated.

The US war with China will be economic at best....they will also try their hand and attacking them from within

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

I always say that these war simulations should be taken with a spoonful of salt.

One thing is for certain. China would not make it easy for the US.

 

[MikelArteta]

Now y’all screaming America

all great empires fall

 

[Ozymandeas]

all those countries are too small to be a factor and rely on the US military to protect them from China are you serious

There's a political party in Japan that wants to restore the military because they don't believe the US can protect them from China

The US has never won an all out war, and only became a super power because everybody else was decimated by World War 2, and the US was untouched because zero battles took place on the United States mainland, Americans are delusional because they never had to deal with war on US soil since the civil war and have no idea what its like, if America was attack for real most people will fold up quick and become traitors

Disagree. India alone is China’s size. The Southeast Asian countries add up to roughly another 500 million. And none of that matters really. China has three times our population and we could flatten them ourselves. The only reason we haven’t is because it would go nuclear, it would create a geopolitical nightmare, huge economic ramifications and massive amount of refugees. China has no allies in Asia with the exception of North Korea. They’re held in the same regard as Russia is in Europe. Most Chinese immigrants to other SE Asian countries look down on Chinese who still live in the Mainland as being backwards, brainwashed, and weirdos who are controlled by a communist government. China is surrounded by countries that don’t fukk with them but are too scared to go to war on their own but if something ever broke out between the USA and China all those countries would be on the USA’s side and you’re crazy if you think that’s not an advantage.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

America is in all areas

We haven't had a real war with another superpower since world War 2. We've been in these guerilla conflicts since Vietnam and has changed our military.

Because a real war would fukk everybody up

 

[Dr. Hibbert's Revenge]

I think we will see the decline of both the US and China over the next few decades.

Corporations will become more important players than nation states if they arent already

This pandemic just accelerated the processs

 

[Master Teacher]

Disagree. India alone is China’s size. The Southeast Asian countries add up to roughly another 500 million. And none of that matters really. China has three times our population and we could flatten them ourselves. The only reason we haven’t is because it would go nuclear, it would create a geopolitical nightmare, huge economic ramifications and massive amount of refugees. China has no allies in Asia with the exception of North Korea. They’re held in the same regard as Russia is in Europe. Most Chinese immigrants to other SE Asian countries look down on Chinese who still live in the Mainland as being backwards, brainwashed, and weirdos who are controlled by a communist government. China is surrounded by countries that don’t fukk with them but are too scared to go to war on their own but if something ever broke out between the USA and China all those countries would be on the USA’s side and you’re crazy if you think that’s not an advantage.

man you are stupid, I'm not taking about the geographic size of the land you moron

You realize every man in China is required to be in the military, its mandatory

nobody is invading China at this point, Russia will come to China's add, the missile systems alone would decimate any carriers or air craft, its not as easy as you think

this isn't 1954

The Us relies to much on computers for all their military operations, China can disable the power grid here in America with hackers and turn off satellites which would cripple US communications

There is a book called cyber wars I suggest you read it

 

[Ozymandeas]

Pakistan, Cambodia, Butan, Nepal and Iran are with China.


BUu to be honest, there is no guarantee on how anyone will act.

For instance, maybe Japan will tale that occasion to kick the US out instead.


A China US war is an unprecedent and unpredictable event.

Anyone saying it will go like this like that he's talking out of his ass.



Not a lot of countries will be ready to fight China just for Taiwan.

Il the US does not move, no one is gonna do shyt.

Notice how all those countries are in Central Asia or in the South Asia/India region with the exception of Cambodia. Almost none are in East Asia China has basically NO ALLIES there. They are hated over there. They’re the Asian equivalent of Russia. Countries haven’t opposed them because they’d get squashed one on one but they would ally with the USA if things ever popped off.

 

[Ozymandeas]

man you are stupid, I'm not taking about the geographic size of the land you moron

You realize every man in China is required to be in the military, its mandatory

nobody is invading China at this point, Russia will come to China's add, the missile systems alone would decimate any carriers or air craft, its not as easy as you think

this isn't 1954

The Us relies to much on computers for all their military operations, China can disable the power grid here in America with hackers and turn off satellites which would cripple US communications

There is a book called cyber wars I suggest you read it

Shut your stupid ass up. China can’t even feed its own people they eating dogs and bats out of pure starvation but theyre gonna win a war with the United States. Half of the Chinese countryside lives in abject poverty in comparison to other third world countries but, it’s gonna win a war with the United States. China is surrounded on all sides by enemies but it’s gonna win a war with the United States. The majority of China’s population is in one fukking place that can be easily reached from bases in all earlier said countries who don’t fukk with China but China can win a war with the United States. You brushed off India when they have one of the more powerful armies in the world and China can barely deal with them, a country we could wipe off the Earth in minutes but China is gonna win a war with the United States. Anything China thinks it can do, we can do back tenfold. Sit your ass down. I was trying to be nice with your stupid ass. I can be ignorant too fakkit.

 

[African Peasant]

Notice how all those countries are in Central Asia or in the South Asia/India region with the exception of Cambodia. Almost none are in East Asia China has basically NO ALLIES there. They are hated over there. They’re the Asian equivalent of Russia. Countries haven’t opposed them because they’d get squashed one on one but they would ally with the USA if things ever popped off.

The last time the US and China fought, the US and its allies had to fall back because the US could not do it. In a confrontation with the US, these allies will be useless, it will be about the US. Japan is the only exception. South Korea will most likely stay out of it. It's the same thing with Russia.

The situation in case of an invasion of Taiwan will solely depend on the attitude of the US. The rest does not count.

But China won't invade Taiwan now anyway. Time is on its side.