Conservatives and Far Right Parties Win Majority in German Elections

Jean toomer

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so you have no idea.

can you speak german? ever exposed to german language media? german language political programs? german language chitter-chatter?

in original language or even translated?

how much have you consumed?

if you had to cluster the 5 cities that you named above in terms of cultural and structural similarity, how would you do it? what would be the result?

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I think you’re being far too reductionist. To say that one cannot get an idea of the cultural nuances of a people if you don’t live their is narrow minded. Do I speak German? No can I get by on business German or speak to a maroccan cab driver or waiter in English and German, yes. The immigrants have given me an interesting perspective on what it’s like living in all the cities I mentioned. My perspectives are limited to the immigrants and business people I interact with in my limited German and English.
How many cities in Germany have you lived and for how long?
 

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Its the best result for a far right party in Germany since the Nazis. I dont want to downplay that, its extremely alarming.

German society should be in panic mode now and doing everything possible to stop them from gaining more support
What Donald Trump is doing in America shows people what they can expect if thr far right wins in their own country.

The appeal of far right parties is anti immigration. All parties now are anti immigrant so they don't have a unique appeal other than to billionaires who want a party that's easy to control and manipulate and who will give them free reign in the economy.

The way that ww2 is taught is SEVERELY incomplete. Corporations bankrolled and loved fascism as an ideology because it meant more deregulation and control over workers. Nazis dismantled unions and various worker protections. They were anti immigrant, they manipulated the media and spoke directly to their supporters.

The left needs to come together like voltron across the world and exchange tactics and put them into motion.

The media won't stop this. Social media won't stop this. Only people can stop this and they can only do that if they are given a vision of the hell they can expect if the right takes power(easy to do, all they'll need to do is see what's happening here) but then also a vision of what government under a left wing government would look like.

Democrats here are just controlled opposition. A serious opposition party would support its own version of project 2025(the green new deal) instead of rejecting it. There needs to be unity and that only happens when a creative individual or group is in touch with the electorate and is focused on their needs. Mexico and Brazil showed us how to do it, the world should be taking inspiration from them.
 

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I think you’re being far too reductionist.

i'm not. you said "politics".

How many german political programs have you ever watched, is my point.

If the answer is "next to none" you are not in a strong position to make assertions about german political culture.

Even the way germans approach those sorts of discussions is different.

Same for social culture and history.

The UK and the US have shared language and still I would not take the word of a brit that he was an expert in american political culture without evidence.

Here you are not speaking a word. No examples. No city social clustering.

So tell me then, how are they culturally similar. Spell it out.

To say that one cannot get an idea of the cultural nuances of a people if you don’t live their is narrow minded. Do I speak German? No can I get by on business German or speak to a maroccan cab driver or waiter in English and German, yes. The immigrants have given me an interesting perspective on what it’s like living in all the cities I mentioned. My perspectives are limited to the immigrants and business people I interact with in my limited German and English.

The taxi driver's view of germany.

You need a bit more than that.

How many cities in Germany have you lived and for how long?

Long term 2. Mid term - 5. Visited multiple times - all of the big ones.

Worked in german. Bought property in germany. Issued contracts in german.

I speak C1 german and can understand most conversations. I could survive there without speaking a word of english, if i wanted to.

When I first started working in Germany I visited everywhere. Including the wild east. Maybe I have been to 50 cities more than once. I have lost count.

To list them would take too long.

All in more than 10 years. Easily. I am going back to germany in two weeks, to fix my car (german) and sort out some bills.

I have a german bank account, I have taken exams in german, I have a german driving license, a german home ..

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The New Chancellor doesn't fukk with those AfD Nazis,Trump or Elon
AfD lost that's what matters here

Look at the percentages.

German politics is not first past the post like in UK/US.

The CDU still have to build a majority coalition to govern and that is where the complications start to creep in.

And as the AFD share grows the question of ignoring the will of the people will start to be increasingly raised.

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Putin will be ready thanks to Trump to invade Germany and save them from the Nazis like his Soviet ancestors :blessed:
 

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I was talking about German civil society. But you clearly live there so I’m sure you have a better understanding of their dynamics than I do :manny:

too many of them are conservative in nature because german culture is itself conservative.

it resists change. wants standardisation. assigns personhood, rather than ability based roles. female KKK = kinder, kuche and kirche. children, kitchen and church I think the saying goes. the expert is typically a white, male, "qualified" academic etc.

 

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Immigration.

Yep !!!

just heard the other day on one of them cable news networks that Germany has received 15 to 20 million immigrants over the past several years … like literally nobody wants immigrants coming to their country is crazy. How immigration was usually at the bottom of the top priorities and has literally shot up to number one
 

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You know...im just confused on what this horrible thing was that happened that got all these white people going insane and looking at minorities as an issue again.

I mean...it looks like one dude..Trump, ignited all of this bullsh*t
 

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German Conservative Party would be considered democratic in US lol

Don’t compare conservatives in US that are far right to other countries conservatives

Even Canada conservatives have views that align with democrats in US than with maga
 

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You know...im just confused on what this horrible thing was that happened that got all these white people going insane and looking at minorities as an issue again.

I mean...it looks like one dude..Trump, ignited all of this bullsh*t
Their population and influence in the world are decreasing.
 
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