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I'm going to have to eventually accept BeliTrick/Felon Boi's epic run as a GOAT tandem:damn:

...forgive me GMEN:bryan:

Cheatriots endless succes makes me utterly sick, but you gotta acknowledge the facts:scust:
 
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Belichick is the GOAT coach, but Brady isn't the GOAT qb.

Belichick has certainly benefited from having Brady, but I think Brady has benefited more from having Belichick. The drop off from Belichick to the #2 coach is huge, Brady isn't even the clear best QB in the league today.

NFL history is littered with elite QBs who were stuck on poorly built teams, or awful organizations. Brady shows what happens when a top 5 QB lands in a perfect situation.
 

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I dont understand people who like soccer but hate hockey. Hockey is soccer but smaller, faster, and with hitting and fighting. As a game its basically a better-in-every-way version of soccer




Other than that, it's personal taste. The thing is that it's maybe ten countries in the world who care about hockey :yeshrug:

Phil Jackson is not the greatest basketball coach of all-time.

I don't know about all-time (can't talk of coaches before I really started watching bball) but I thought it was somewhat agreed that Pop is a better coach than Phil
 

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"Rim protection" is overrated

The bucks...jazz...and 76ers will NEVER be higher than a 4 seed and between the 3 they won't win 5 playoff series in the next decade

Steve Kerr is a pretty bad coach

Almost every advanced basketball stat is bad

Sports owners, gm's, scouts, and coaches aren't actually that smart

If the warriors don't win a ring 5 star lock KD going to play somewhere else...

If the warriors don't make it to at least the WCF for two straight seasons steve kerr will quit before the 3rd season starts...

Pop is a gawd tier coach but his decision making has cost the spurs quite a few regular season games and that series against the thunder last year
 
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Other than that, it's personal taste. The thing is that it's maybe ten countries in the world who care about hockey :yeshrug:



I don't know about all-time (can't talk of coaches before I really started watching bball) but I thought it was somewhat agreed that Pop is a better coach than Phil

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And Datsyuk is a "very good" player
 

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And Datsyuk is a "very good" player

I hear you breh, it just sounded like your original post was on some "hockey is so much more spectacular than soccer". Those highlights are similar to soccer highlights, with the added difficulty of doing it with their feet.

I'm not even that big of a soccer fan but some of the stuff they do...:ohhh::wow: the you add the drama of CL, EC, WC...

I've seen hockey highlights, for sure there's spectacular stuff, that's why I added the second part of my post, that the majority of the world just doesn't care one bit about hockey :yeshrug:
 
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I hear you breh, it just sounded like your original post was on some "hockey is so much more spectacular than soccer". Those highlights are similar to soccer highlights, with the added difficulty of doing it with their feet.

I'm not even that big of a soccer fan but some of the stuff they do...:ohhh::wow: the you add the drama of CL, EC, WC...

I've seen hockey highlights, for sure there's spectacular stuff, that's why I added the second part of my post, that the majority of the world just doesn't care one bit about hockey :yeshrug:
True, that is a major and accurate factor
 

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YAC (yard after catch) shouldn't count when calculating a quaterback yardage stats

Drop passes shouldn't count against a quaterback completion percentage

Add on :patrice:

Good ones. Only issue would be how we define a drop. Are we going by the "if it hits your hands you should catch it" standard?

So you're telling me the team stats would say the team has 300 passing yards but the QB only has 225?


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You could easily break it down to passing yards, yards after catch, and rushing yards.

This YAC talk is just silly and pointless. If the QB throws a ball that can be caught in stride, that should not appear on the stat sheet the same as a ball where the receiver gets tackled immediately. If you want to know the air yards (which I agree is a worthwhile stat) just look for that stat.

You'd have a better point talking about yards after contact.

Why not? No matter how perfectly you throw the pass it is still on the receiver to do what he does after the fact. Setting something up, no matter how well you do it, does not warrant credit after the fact. That's like saying that if a QB throws a pass to get a team within chip shot field goal range, he should get credit for the points when the kicker makes the kick. And what about QBs that don't throw it in stride and the receiver immediately breaks a tackle or shakes or out runs someone or a couple people?

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Rings are more so an indicator of circumstance than individual greatness

Rodgers is still the best I've seen even after yesterday and I would take him over any other QB if I was starting a team

Divisions and conferences are only good for scheduling at this point. Teams should not be gifted with playoffs spots or even home field/court because they happen to be in a certain grouping. The NBA really has no excuse not to do straight 1-16.

You learn more about a player and how great they really are and how much impact they truly have when everything around them isn't going well. I've gained more respect for a lot of guys in losing efforts or plays that didn't work it than I have for other guys (or even the same guys) when everything lines up perfectly for them.

Baseball should have uniform park dimensions and intentional walks should not be allowed

QBs should not be treated with kid gloves or given a million chances or big deals just because they don't completely suck. Either you produce or you don't. fukk your feelings and fukk the market.
 
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Why not? No matter how perfectly you throw the pass it is still on the receiver to do what he does after the fact. Setting something up, no matter how well you do it, does not warrant credit after the fact. That's like saying that if a QB throws a pass to get a team within chip shot field goal range, he should get credit for the points when the kicker makes the kick. And what about QBs that don't throw it in stride and the receiver immediately breaks a tackle or shakes or out runs someone or a couple people?

That's a mighty large leap in logic you just made :skip:

Look, it's really quite simple: if the ball is snapped at one spot and advanced to another spot as the result of a forward pass on a single play, the yardage gained is passing yards and receiving yards. You guys are beating your chests over a stat that already exists. If you truly believe air yards are more important, then use it.

Regarding your question: the QB gets all those yards just like a WR gets all the yardage that is made possible by a QB evading rushers in order to even get the pass off on some plays. It's always a team sport. A receiver catches the ball and gets an extra 20 yards thanks to a great block from his TE down the field....let's give those yards to the TE instead:skip:
 

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That's a mighty large leap in logic you just made :skip:

Look, it's really quite simple: if the ball is snapped at one spot and advanced to another spot as the result of a forward pass on a single play, the yardage gained is passing yards and receiving yards. You guys are beating your chests over a stat that already exists. If you truly believe air yards are more important, then use it.

Regarding your question: the QB gets all those yards just like a WR gets all the yardage that is made possible by a QB evading rushers in order to even get the pass off on some plays. It's always a team sport. A receiver catches the ball and gets an extra 20 yards thanks to a great block from his TE down the field....let's give those yards to the TE instead:skip:

That's actually in line with what you are saying...I'm saying the exact opposite. I say give folks credit for what they do. Even in your counter example the WR still has to get open and catch the ball. We can't fall back on the "team sport" cop out when we are talking about stats that isolate individuals. Nothing large about that leap...if you are gonna give credit for setting something up but not actually doing anything after that then when does it stop?
 
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That's actually in line with what you are saying...I'm saying the exact opposite. I say give folks credit for what they do. Even in your counter example the WR still has to get open and catch the ball. We can't fall back on the "team sport" cop out when we are talking about stats that isolate individuals. Nothing large about that leap...if you are gonna give credit for setting something up but not actually doing anything after that then when does it stop?

You can't see how going from what happens on a single play to what happens in a completely different play is a large leap in logic? :comeon:
 

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You can't see how going from what happens on a single play to what happens in a completely different play is a large leap in logic? :comeon:

No because the concept is the same. Regardless of how perfectly you throw the pass for 30 yds, if the WR takes it 80 that's on him. Just like regardless of how close you get the kicker to the goal post, him making that kick is on him.
 
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