Could Liberia Ever Become The African-American Version Of Israel? (Should AA's Support It?)

Should African-Americans Support/INVEST (In) Liberia & Turn It Into Their Homeland?


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Yeah what I always say (I'm repeating my other post) is that people in the diasporas gotta be humble regarding "plans" in Africa. I include myself in that.

But I wouldn't knock OP for starting a thread like this, if more informed brehs can chime in and spark more research, it's a good step.

I dont take anyone serious who speaks on Africa u less they have been there or in the process of saving money to go.
 

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The same poster that made this thread made a thread thats literally above this on black people in America need to learn swahili and spanish.

:russ::russ::russ::russ:

Yet is proposing this idea.

:mjlol:
Come on brotha I'm trying. I've been reading more and watching documentaries on African history. You know more than myself on this topic. I'm the political guy :heh:
 

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TBH I don't even understand why Liberia. I mean you have various African countries were things are moving forward, why not create connections in those countries where you already have things developping locally, and try to get involved in that. Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya, SA...Senegal, Ivory Coast, Benin, Angola for those who speak other languages, etc

because Liberia was created as a AA homeland in Africa so theres that history or idea still floating around
 

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The problem is Liberia has plenty of people there already, we start moving in and encroaching on their land, while you liken us to the Israelites, who will be the Palestinians (displaced folks)?
I'll pass.
Plus, my folks lived and died over here for at least 400 years. Now that the technology and living is pretty good, I'm just supposed to leave and make ANOTHER exodus to another foreign land? And leave all of what our ancestors did here to go and colonize like the white folks did here? Im good and you should be too.
It's not even about encroachment. Any black person can go to any country in West Africa and blend in with the indigenous population. All you've to do is pick whatever ethnic group you like, change your name to one of their tribal names, and embrace the culture/people.
However, one thing Africans (just like other indigenous people everywhere else) don't joke about is land. People's heritage, history, culture, and advancements are tied to their ancestral land and it represents who they're.
The question is is liberia worth investing in? Assimilating wasn't just about adopting people's culture for returnees it was about can I build a future in this country, where my descendants will be well off.
The level of elitism in nigeria differs from liberia. AA's, west indians also assimilated into Nigeria very well because there was an educated political indigenous population.
Likewise in Accra
No, there was NO educated indigenous population in Nigeria when the slaves returned from Brazil, Cuba, and Sierra Leone (Anglo slaves were taken to Freetown in Sierra Leone before they found their way to Nigeria) in the 1800s. The literacy rate of Nigeria in 1920 was less than 10% and it'd be less than 1% in the 1800s. The returnee slaves were actually the first core of educated class in Nigeria and they never used that as a yardstick to oppress the indigenous people. Rather, they were at the forefront of everything good that happened to Nigeria, coupled with a lot royal kids and few Nigerian entrepreneurs.
You don't really know much about precolonial/colonial Nigeria. Perhaps one day when I've free time, I might create a thread to discuss it, with some PDF files. The returnee slaves were the unsung heroes of colonial Nigeria and their legacy is what made Lagos what it's today. They built the renaissance there and gave the city the life it has now.
 
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Its not that we're similar to whites but that we're American and have been for generations. You can always tell who's American no matter where you are. AAs are especially unique in that way. We dont have allies, not even other minority groups here. We got this far by our lonesome and that probably shows when we come 'home'. Right or wrong, progressive or not, lets not act like we AAs dont have our reasons. All legit.

No saying AAs don't legit reasons for being who they're. However, AAs in general tend to act a lot like the American cacs who think relations should be based on the imposition of perceived superiority over everyone else. Things don't work that way and that's one of the reasons why the US is on the path of self-destruction.

So, Aframs need to detox and embrace their Africanness more. And when you get to Rome, you've to act like the Romans, so as to avoid unnecessary friction. The Afro-Brazilians and Afro--Cubans did it and are still doing it. Jamaicans are also doing it now in Ghana.
 

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Why do you think that?

@CashmereEsquire is right, there's no point to getting another nation citizenship if you have no connection to it or any real plans as to why you want it
Why do I think that?

-As a US citizen, you have much easier access to US financial institutions, and potentially US investors, to raise money.

-Also, you can travel visa free or with little hassle to a lot more countries with a US passport than with a Liberian passport. If you are living/working in Liberia, but doing business abroad, a US passport is a good thing to have.

A hypothetical AA who wanted to move to Liberia for good would probably want to become a Liberian citizen, or at least obtain permanent residency. But it be would wise to keep their US citizenship for business reasons.
 

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It's not even about encroachment. Any black person can go to any country in West Africa and blend in with the indigenous population. All you've to do is pick whatever ethnic group you like, change your name to one of their tribal names, and embrace the culture/people.
However, one thing Africans (just like other indigenous people everywhere else) don't joke about is land. People's heritage, history, culture, and advancements are tied to their ancestral land and it represents who they're.

No, there was NO educated indigenous population in Nigeria when the slaves returned from Brazil, Cuba, and Sierra Leone (Anglo slaves were taken to Freetown in Sierra Leone before they found their way to Nigeria) in the 1800s. The literacy rate of Nigeria in 1920 was less than 10% and it'd be less than 1% in the 1800s. The returnee slaves were actually the first core of educated class in Nigeria and they never used that as a yardstick to oppress the indigenous. Rather, they were at the forefront of everything good that happened to Nigeria, coupled with a lot royal kids and few Nigerian entrepreneurs.
You don't really know much about precolonial/colonial Nigeria. Perhaps one day when I've free time, I might create a thread to discuss it, with some PDF files. The returnee slaves were the unsung heroes of colonial Nigeria and their legacy is what made Lagos what it's today. They built the renaissance there and gave the city the life it has now.

:mjlol: were you alive then nikka?
Stahhhhp it. I can school you on almost every returnee or royal family from egbaland to lagos to abonnema to calabar - which is what I belong too.
When I said an educated elite class- I was obviously talking about the children of Kings, chiefs and merchants. those were who the returnees mixed with not regular farmers and fishermen.

In my own family the indigenous people we married were of royal lineage Alake of egbaland, Obong of Calabar and the Amanyanabo of abonnema. Intermarriage between returnees and non elite did not start happening till 2 generations ago.

If I say an elite indigenous class - I mean the likes of Sir Adetokumbo Ademola- who's father was the Alake of egbaland and mother of Alajika ( Brazilian descent) who married a woman from the Vaughn family (returnee)- who was of AA descent.
^^^ this was more common than a returnee marrying the child of a fisherman or farmer.

point being liberia's indigenous class were not as elitist as

Added - Also racism in America hindered liberias indigenous population from excelling in academics. Liberia being an American colony did not have indigenous people leaving Liberia to study in white schools in America.

Unlike Nigeria, Ghana, Salone- all British colonies- had indigenous elite class of people going to Cambridge, Glasglow, British universities.
 
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