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winb83

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I would never choose covid tho. I would choose to stay healthy at all costs and protect myself by socially distancing, washing my hands regularly and wearing a mask. why would i choose to get a virus? you said all that as a hypothetical not rooted in any reality except for the false hypothetical reality you presented.
You essentially are choosing COVID. What I’m saying is the choice should be “I would rather die from COVID than get vaccinated” because like it or not that’s the risk being taken. If you’re going to take that risk at least acknowledge and accept it.

Too many people simply don’t accept the risk they’re taking and hope they slip through the cracks. A good amount of them get COVID and then wish they got vaccinated. It’s the difference between gambling and losing then saying I wish I took the other choice rather than gambling and losing and being at peace with the choice you made since it was an active decision.

I acknowledge my choice to get vaccinated isn’t the only choice. The issue is people are making a choice passively instead of actively. Both choices have unknowns but one choice has drastically better favorable odds and it isn’t even close. If you’re going to deliberately pick the choice with worse odds should be because you want it that way not running from one set of unknowns knowingly into another set you deny.
 

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how isn't it practical now? was it ever unpractical?
So you don’t work around others, visit family, hang with friends, go out to eat, live life, have people that live with you that have a life to live?

You plan to be distant from society until Covid disappears, if that’s the case then you have bigger issues than Covid
 

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So you don’t work around others, visit family, hang with friends, go out to eat, live life, have people that live with you that have a life to live?

You plan to be distant from society until Covid disappears, if that’s the case then you have bigger issues than Covid

you didn't even answer the question

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how isn't it practical now? was it ever unpractical?
Over a long enough time table social distancing won’t protect you from constant exposure. If we’re being honest this is gonna be around long term.

Your best hope is we reach herd immunity and this goes away. It’s not looking good for that scenario.
 

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You essentially are choosing COVID. What I’m saying is the choice should be “I would rather die from COVID than get vaccinated” because like it or not that’s the risk being taken. If you’re going to take that risk at least acknowledge and accept it.

Too many people simply don’t accept the risk they’re taking and hope they slip through the cracks. A good amount of them get COVID and then wish they got vaccinated. It’s the difference between gambling and losing then saying I wish I took the other choice rather than gambling and losing and being at peace with the choice you made since it was an active decision.

I acknowledge my choice to get vaccinated isn’t the only choice. The issue is people are making a choice passively instead of actively. Both choices have unknowns but one choice has drastically better favorable odds and it isn’t even close. If you’re going to deliberately pick the choice with worse odds should be because you want it that way not running from one set of unknowns knowingly into another set you deny.

no i'm not essentially choosing covid because i'm not taking the vaccine you dumb fukk. what the fukk does that even mean? do ya'll know how moronic you sound? am i essentially choosing hiv if i choose to practice abstinence or wear condoms?

shut your dumb ass up. typing all that fukking bullshyt.
 

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Over a long enough time table social distancing won’t protect you from constant exposure. If we’re being honest this is gonna be around long term.

Your best hope is we reach herd immunity and this goes away. It’s not looking good for that
scenario.

you also didn't answer the question.
 

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no i'm not essentially choosing covid because i'm not taking the vaccine you dumb fukk. what the fukk does that even mean? do ya'll know how moronic you sound? am i essentially choosing hiv if i choose to practice abstinence or wear condoms?
If you choose to not get vaccinated by your actions you’re saying you would rather get COVID and whatever that brings than get vaccinated and have protection from it. You calling me a dumb fukk when you don’t even see that?

You don’t get to sit on the sidelines and through inaction opt out.
 

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If you choose to not get vaccinated by your actions you’re saying you would rather get COVID and whatever that brings than get vaccinated and have protection from it. You calling me a dumb fukk when you don’t even see that?

You don’t get to sit on the sidelines and through inaction opt out.

I said if it came down to and I caught COVID then I would probably survive. I didn't say I would choose COVID you fukking dummy. If I practice social distancing and wear a mask with good hygiene and good health, I deem that good enough for me. If for some reason I still contracted it even after taking precautions, I estimated my chances of survival and recovery based on my health would be very high. You sound like a child. Nobody is choosing to be sick in any situation. We choose the best precautionary measures based off what is best for us and what we feel comfortable with. It's still my right and I will exercise it responsibly.
 

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I said if it came down to and I caught COVID then I would probably survive. I didn't say I would choose COVID you fukking dummy. If I practice social distancing and wear a mask with good hygiene and good health, I deem that good enough for me. If for some reason I still contracted it even after taking precautions, I estimated my chances of survival and recovery based on my health would be very high. You sound like a child. Nobody is choosing to be sick in any situation. We choose the best precautionary measures based off what is best for us and what we feel comfortable with. It's still my right and I will exercise it responsibly.
So worst comes to worst and you’re in the hospital about to be put on a ventilator because you couldn’t predict how your body would respond to COVID and had a bad outcome you most certainly aren’t gonna look back and think damn I should have took the shot like all those other unvaccinated people do.

This whole I’m probably gonna be fine talk is that it won’t happen to me logic. People ask me why I got vaccinated I can easily tell them I’d rather get vaccinated than get COVID. Why is it so hard for you to outright say that you’d rather get COVID and whatever that does to you than be vaccinated? Why is it so hard to admit that between the vaccine and COVID you’d rather get COVID?
 

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So worst comes to worst and you’re in the hospital about to be put on a ventilator because you couldn’t predict how your body would respond to COVID and had a bad outcome you most certainly aren’t gonna look back and think damn I should have took the shot like all those other unvaccinated people do.

This whole I’m probably gonna be fine talk is that it won’t happen to me logic. People ask me why I got vaccinated I can easily tell them I’d rather get vaccinated than get COVID. Why is it so hard for you to outright say that you’d rather get COVID and whatever that does to you than be vaccinated? Why is it so hard to admit that between the vaccine and COVID you’d rather get COVID?

you're dealing with more hypotheticals. nothing you're saying is rooted in my reality. it's a strawman argument. the vaccination isn't even a year old and you're telling me it's better for me than what worked for the majority of this pandemic. you know nothing about my medical history, my blood type, specific genetics or any other variable that can cause an adverse reaction or keep the vaccine from fully protecting me from the virus. but yet i told you i wore a mask and socially distanced and that kept me covid free.

your argument is rooted in nothing and mine is rooted in my own reality and experience, yet you seem to think you can debate with me when you still haven't even answered the question I asked. i'm done replying to you and your stupidity.


ok...
 

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The irony of all this is I’m not even trying to convince dude to get vaccinated I’m simply arguing that he should make a real decision one way or the other and be at peace with it.

None of this half measure of I’m not gonna do the vaccine and hopefully I don’t get COVID and if I do hopefully I come out fine.

People should have the conviction to say I’m not doing the vaccine and if I get COVID and it kills me so be it because like it or not the moment you turn down the vaccine and it’s protection that’s what your actions decide for you. A lot of people don’t come to terms with that until they end up hospitalized then they go I should have taken the shot in in reality they should feel like I made my bed I’ll lay in it. This is what I chose.
 

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I said if it came down to and I caught COVID then I would probably survive. I didn't say I would choose COVID you fukking dummy. If I practice social distancing and wear a mask with good hygiene and good health, I deem that good enough for me. If for some reason I still contracted it even after taking precautions, I estimated my chances of survival and recovery based on my health would be very high. You sound like a child. Nobody is choosing to be sick in any situation. We choose the best precautionary measures based off what is best for us and what we feel comfortable with. It's still my right and I will exercise it responsibly.
None of this is more effective than taking the vaccine :snoop:
 

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None of this is more effective than taking the vaccine :snoop:

how would you know, if the vaccine is less than a year old and the majority of the world isn't vaccinated? what data would you have to substantiate your claim and how would you support it against 18 months of face masks and social distancing from almost 100% of the modern world?

you can't. it's a mathematical impossibility. ask any mathematician or scientist.

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how would you know, if the vaccine is less than a year old and the majority of the world isn't vaccinated? what data would you have to substantiate your claim and how would you support it against 18 months of face masks and social distancing from almost 100% of the modern world?

you can't. it's a mathematical impossibility. ask any mathematician or scientist.

:umad:
Aight. It’s time for you to stop posting about Covid
 
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