Dame Dash on the BreakFast Club this morning, nikka angry for no reason

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a few things:

-as soon as Dame saw Charlemagne wearing that shyt, it was bound to be fukkery.
-Dame is delusional and does contradict himself a lot PLUS has some emotional issues. dude makes Kanye look like a mellow dude in comparison.
-Low key, Dame actually did drop some gems. some of it was nonsense but there were gems as far as the philosophy.
-you could tell Mook regretted being there. if i had skills i'd create a meme with Mook thought bubbles.
-Dame SONNED these mothafukkers something vicious. even if you disagree with what he was saying, he was affecting them emotionally. his clowning game is :banderas:
-even the other dude on Dame's left was unintentionally funny.

overall, this is a breakfast club classic. fukkery, gems, tension, humor, i was entertained.
 

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There's pretty much no way to PASSIONATELY talk about why you like having a boss without sounding like a slave. I don't think anybody really WANTS a boss, it's a settle move or they're simply afraid to invest in themselves. And if they say the common answer, "I make more money here than I would as an entrepreneur", then logical next question is "Why don't you have the confidence that your company could be as big/profitable as the company you currently work for?"


Exactly.
 

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you're a product of the machine my friend. so am I. but you missed what dame said. and you dont understand the difference.

THe reason people WORK 9 to 5's isnt because they want to. its because of the security(benefits, guarantee pay check in 2 weeks, their check is also more stable over all).

And there is nothing wrong with wanting security. I'd rather be a product of the machine that understand exactly how the system works than some clown like Dame shytting on people with no concept of business. Many people enjoy their 9-5s and many have the freedom to do as they please. If YOU are valuable and you have a problem with what the boss says - leave.You'll find a job somewhere else because your skill set is in demand. Dame Dash for all his bragging is not in demand anywhere. He's a "boss" with no clout in the industry he once worked in and is now selling hand me down motor oil.


the reason people own businesses is not only to make money for themselves today, its also to not have a boss where they have to curtail their imagination, etc., lastly to have something to pass on to family.

You know I've seen this rhetoric repeated by ignorant people regularly. Do you know that you can own part a company without being the boss - and be better off than the boss? You realize Envy has much more to pass on to his son than Dame Dash? I mean seriously step back and think about WHAT kind of people you're talking about. The people that have miserable jobs with little career opportunities because the people they work for hold all of the power. They have no ownership in where they work and at best that job is just a holdover until something else comes along. Now look at where DJ Envy is and ask yourself if that applies to him. Once again - there is nothing wrong with wanting to own your own stuff, But be realistic in how the world works or you'll end up just like Dame.

can you pass on company stock? Sure. can you pass on money? sure. do you think envy is worth millions(not a life insurance policy, money in the bank, property/etc.) if the answer is NO. then he doesnt have enough to pass on to his Kid(s) in order to guarantee they dont have to HAVE A BOSS. thats true freedom. but it comes at a cost(less secure money, cause you can be up one day and down the next. but some people take pride in being their own boss.)

Whatever Envy's networth is doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter if it's millions today or tomorrow because none of us know the answer. You can't say whether it's "enough". The point is Envy has assets that he can pass down to his son and Dame didn't know that. End of story. There is no true freedom in being a boss of a rotting empire and saying "here son - you take over. You're the boss now!" - No. That's called passing down debt and liabilities. Can Dame pass anything Rocafella related to his kids and have them eat or does his kid have to sell cookies to Ebro at Hot 97? Learn how wealth is built before you spout the lame rhetoric of those that don't understand. Envy's son could turn 18 with just $300,000 to his name and no debt and be better off than "CEO Dame Dash Jr" who has inherited his father's assets that are in the hole.

let me explain. do you realize in most companies if your parent or wife, husband, brother, sister dies on tuesday you basically have like 5 days or less in order to mourn their loss and you better get ya a... back to work or you may be written up. THAT is not freedom. no matter how you spin it.

And so what? Tough shyt. The world doesn't stop for you. My family owns their own business and they are the boss. If someone dies they don't take a week off to mourn. shyt gotta get done. That's life. You are sorely mistaken if you think being a boss means you just take vacations when you please, tell people what to do, and walk out the door counting money. Very few people have that luxury. You've got a product to sell and customers to serve - they don't give a fukk about your dead aunt, they want want they paid for.

we worker bees need to own up to it. and maybe we can switch it up. not everyone is going to be a boss so to speak. but for those that can be. ENVY can be, he's been in the game too long. knows to many people with $$$, he has a following. he's not starting from scratch. so technically envy's only excuse is the security of it. just admit it. thats why that was the only time he got quiet is when dame said its the security.

You want Envy to take his platform off of Clear Channel, convince his two cohosts who are also the product, and go where? Start a youtube channel? Then when he has to maintain the same economic power he has now and can't because of the high barrier of entry into national radio then what? What does he do when the competition is too great and his voice can't reach as far? How do you know CTG wanted to break away too, but Yee didn't and the idea got flushed? Do you know the start up costs for a national platform is in the millions because you can't just broadcast for free due to FCC regulations? Maybe Envy wanted to go satellite but realized the time and effort is too much for little payoff because the user base is smaller?

If you want me to admit anything it's that I understand just how difficult it is to be a boss in some places. I've also got enough business sense to ask a lot of questions and do the critical thinking necessary before I even take my first step. None of us know what Dj Envy has tried to do with his money. But we know what Dame did and his ideas and results are those of the typical smart dumb nikka. It's perfectly fine to be a "worker bee" if your money isn't only tied to the job and you can use that paycheck to leverage financial independence - just like Envy. It's also fine to realize you want to be the boss and make the big decisions, take the risks on your shoulders and move up - just like Jay. It's not fine to be blind to the reality of how business works and give stupid advice, you'll end up failing spectacularly and possibly struggle to keep your footing in that industry once people realize you truly know nothing - just like Dame.
 

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The same dudes talking that shyt about group economics and black people owning shyt, are the same ones

Dissing dame dash for TRYING TO ENCOURAGE BLACK PEOPLE TO WANT MORE AND BE OWNERS

THIS MAN TALKING ABOUT PASSING THINGS DOWN TO YOUR CHILDREN!!! AND YES HE USED THOSE

WORDS. HE SAYING THE SAME THING JASON BLACK TARIQ DR.UMAR AND ALL THEM OTHER nikkaS

BE SAYING. BUT I FORGOT YALL STILL ON JAYZ dikk.


PAUSE. :whoa:
Pass down knowledge and the chance to be something, the fukk should I pass down 1/2 of a restaurant and stickers to attach to motor oil to my son for. He might not want to be in the restaurant business, I'd rather pass down real estate, knowledge, shares in successful companies and money. Which is what Envy is doing, Dame was still trying to hate on that.

I would also teach them to never write sentences with capital or bold letters.

Also what ideas is he funding?
He's obviously not completely broke, he still gets checks from College Dropout, Reasonable Doubt, Dipset and probably some other music related things plus some other hustle he's got going on like throwing parties.
 
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To all you nikkas sayin dame is trippin and you should NEVER invest your own money... slap yaself :camby:

All these immigrants are doin JUST THAT. Starting small businesses, hiring their own family, and building their wealth. Using YOUR money to do it too :snoop:
As black folks we HAVE to start our own businesses with our own money. Ain't nobody really tryna hire your black ass and ain't no loans being given to your black ass either. You gotta invest in yourself or you're done :ufdup:

Stop lying. Most immigrants are not running around putting up all their money into their business up front. If they even survive a year like that they'd be part of the 2 or 3% of businesses that make it that far.

What WE mean by not putting up your own money is that you take out a loan and risk someone else's money and start your business. If I have $50,000 sure, i can start my business and pay all the costs up front. The smarter way is to take out a $50,000 loan, take 10 years to pay it off (perhaps costing me $55,000) and having the ability to flip that money while reducing risk. THAT is what we mean by not using your own money. Very few people making bank are doing it by putting up all the risk.

That is how you invest in yourself. Learn or get left behind.
 

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Pass down knowledge and the chance to be something, the fukk should I pass down 1/2 of a restaurant and stickers to attach to motor oil to my son for. He might not want to be in the restaurant business, I'd rather pass down real estate, knowledge, shares in successful companies and money. Which is what Envy is doing, Dame was still trying to hate on that.

I would also teach them to never write sentences with capital or bold letters.

Also what ideas is he funding?
He's obviously not completely broke, he still gets checks from College Dropout, Reasonable Doubt, Dipset and probably some other music related things.

IN ALL CAPS, WHAT IM SAYING IS YOU ALL ARE FAKERS

FIRST YALL SAY WE NEED OWNERSHIP

THEN DAME DASH SAYS THE SAAAAAME THING AND SUDDENLY, ITS NOT RIGHT? JUST CAUSE IT'S

DAME DASH.

AND ENVY BEEN A bytch.
 

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and this" holding money is for suckers,i put everything it in the street" is just an excuse to throw off those ppl who say he hasn't " got it" like that anymore

he needs to be honest and stop trying to bring ppl down...

and for the ppl saying jay is a snake, Jay did the thing dash is preaching currently ....BE YOUR OWN BOSS

he cant be mad at jay for responding to nas without his permission, men shouldn't ask for another mans permission after all:yeshrug:
 

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IN ALL CAPS, WHAT IM SAYING IS YOU ALL ARE FAKERS

FIRST YALL SAY WE NEED OWNERSHIP

THEN DAME DASH SAYS THE SAAAAAME THING AND SUDDENLY, ITS NOT RIGHT? JUST CAUSE IT'S

DAME DASH.

AND ENVY BEEN A bytch.
I won't read your posts until you stop using caps.
 

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Stop lying. Most immigrants are not running around putting up all their money into their business up front. If they even survive a year like that they'd be part of the 2 or 3% of businesses that make it that far.

What WE mean by not putting up your own money is that you take out a loan and risk someone else's money and start your business. If I have $50,000 sure, i can start my business and pay all the costs up front. The smarter way is to take out a $50,000 loan, take 10 years to pay it off (perhaps costing me $55,000) and having the ability to flip that money while reducing risk. THAT is what we mean by not using your own money. Very few people making bank are doing it by putting up all the risk.

That is how you invest in yourself. Learn or get left behind.


IF THE BANK GIVES YOU THAT

WE FORGETTING ABOUT ROUTINELY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE?
 

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Pass down knowledge and the chance to be something, the fukk should I pass down 1/2 of a restaurant and stickers to attach to motor oil to my son for. He might not want to be in the restaurant business, I'd rather pass down real estate, knowledge, shares in successful companies and money. Which is what Envy is doing, Dame was still trying to hate on that.

I would also teach them to never write sentences with capital or bold letters.

Also what ideas is he funding?
He's obviously not completely broke, he still gets checks from College Dropout, Reasonable Doubt, Dipset and probably some other music related things plus some other hustle he's got going on like throwing parties.


Also he funded his shyt...Rachel's shyt..and sons shyt.

Doesn't sound broke to me.
 

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Envy set his self up for that.

He had Dame up their to talk about Jay was 15 mins and it would be sweet.

For a minute it looks like they have nothing else to talk about :laugh: good thing they got Dame--he'll talk.

Dame: :dahell: What's Your Boss Name?

Envy: :ld:Which one?

Dame::deadmanny:

:laugh:
 

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WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT? A BUNCH OF BLACK PEOPLE TELLLINH OTHER BLACK PEOPLE NOT

TO BE OWNERS AND NOT TO OPEN BUSINESSES :dwillhuh:.


MEANWHILE THE WHITES ASIANS INDIANS ARABS ETC. ARE DOIN WHAT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD?:comeon:






I DO THINK EMPLOYEES ARE GOOD FOR SOMETHING, BUT I ALSO THINK ITS SAD THAT MOST BLACK

PEOPLE ARE WORKERS AND NOT OWNERS. DOESN'T ANYBODY SEE A PROBLEM WITH THAT?
 
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