Damn...even the crappiest Asian household has a higher income than the average ADOS home

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Uhh yes, when the U.S. government is subsidizing their education and careers in that field.

Did you watch the video my G or did you just want to use this as an opportunity to take a shot at ADOS people?
Shut up. The US is also subsidizing entire systems of higher education specifically for black folks for over 100 years. My almo matter PVAMU was founded in the late 1800s.

Save the excuses for the more ignorant posters. Blacks folk haven’t taken advantage of all the opportunities that exist here, no matter how you slice it.
 

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We're comparing two groups. The black family structure is totally fukked up. There is nothing appealing to it. The indians might as well also be in a fukked up situations emotionally. However, their structure is helping them economically while black are economically sinking.

You're acting like black families are thriving in happiness. They are not.

i'm not acting like anything. i'm pointing out that trading one bad situation for another is not an upgrade. now again household median income can come from non relatives. if you want to accomplish what they do you can turn your home into a rooming house. :yeshrug:
 

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When I hear Black ppl say wow I'm shocked, I didn't know we were doing this bad, all my friends are balling

Nikkas really live in a bubble once they hit a certain salary

Crazy tho because I guess they don't have to interact with the hood at all?

Even for family dinners?

You were Trump supporter status if you shared Tone/Yvette's points about this same topic

Now, 2021, people are finally waking up
 

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i'm not acting like anything. i'm pointing out that trading one bad situation for another is not an upgrade. now again household median income can come from non relatives. if you want to accomplish what they do you can turn your home into a rooming house. :yeshrug:

In this case, it is. Black people have a fukked up family structure and a fukked up economic situation.

If we "traded", we will have a fukked up family situation and a better economic situation. It's an upgrade.

Black people are actually heading toward an economic and demographic irrelevancy.

If living in a rooming house is the price to pay to put the next generation in a better situation, black people should do it. Long term prosperity is more important than immediate "comfort", assuming that black people are living comfortably, which I doubt.

There is no easy way out. :yeshrug:
 

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Dudes really are gonna excuse AADOS into oblivion. White Supremacy is very real but there is some shyt we can do to address things ourselves.

#1 - gotta jettison current hip-hop culture and the insecurity that makes so many of us inclined to stunt on each other vs. build together.

rappers calling people broke for driving RAV4s and Accords and constantly flaunting designer brands is toxic as fukk.

We’re in no place to have a hyper-consumer culture but that’s what we have. Call it like it is.
If you want to make a dent in raising our income level as a whole. You start with financial literacy education. Group economics so money circulates in the community longer. And lastly you tackle consumer consumption and buying expensive shyt you don't need. If more of us made these goods there would be nothing wrong with loads of it. So you need more Black Entrepreneurs selling services we buy ourselves.

I know so many people getting ripped off by these predatory lenders it ain't funny. But when I try to school them on cheaper access to credit than some payday loan. They get mad at me instead of the white man charging them 35% interest.
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Wow this really went off the track. This thread is showing black peoples lack critical-thinking and planning. Too many people just talking.

There is an easy explanation, just look at a black population map. Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama off the bat are economic killers.

Switch over to Asian populations, they stick to mostly around Cali or NY and if they go south it's Texas. States that are Economic giants.

You need to develop skills for high economic areas.

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In this case, it is. Black people have a fukked up family structure and a fukked up economic situation.

If we "traded", we will have a fukked up family situation and a better economic situation. It's an upgrade.

Black people are actually heading toward an economic and demographic irrelevancy.

If living in a rooming house is the price to pay to put the next generation in a better situation, black people should do it. Long term prosperity is more important than immediate "comfort", assuming that black people are living comfortably, which I doubt.

There is no easy way out. :yeshrug:
Cool story b.

I'm not doing that and neither are most of the other brehs. Reality. Nothing you are saying is appealing and your outlook is hopeless and miserable. Pass.
 

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Who said anything about a massive scale? People who know better just need to say as much and that changes the culture.

Our community needs a little more internal shaming and blaming. Those of us who know better should clown people who prioritize consumption when black people are where they are.

Like…why are we letting celebs shyt on us and our fams in their music? Why do we not call out Cardi for being a Bernie Stan while also having “broke boys don’t deserve no p*ssy” in her hook. Like…wtf? Your audience is the brokest in the country. Why do we continually give passes for lines like that when so many of us ARE struggling?
Because Black culture and the broader American culture are intertwined
You just can't do that any more
Not saying you're wrong...but it's the facts
 

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hence why India is at the top

shyt is not complicated b

i'm not tryna live 4 generations deep in one crib to juke some stats :hubie:
how would 4 generations of indians exist in the US?
i thought they started coming over recently
 

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If you want to make a dent in raising our income level as a whole. You start with financial literacy education. Group economics so money circulates in the community longer. And lastly you tackle consumer consumption and buying expensive shyt you don't need. If more of us made these goods there would be nothing wrong with loads of it. So you need more Black Entrepreneurs selling services we buy ourselves.

I know so many people getting ripped off by these predatory lenders it ain't funny. But when I try to school them on cheaper access to credit than some payday loan. They get mad at me instead of the white man charging them 35% interest.
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No breaks: Huge auto lender didn't give borrowers deferrals during Covid

We used to have strong churches and that was the entire basis of the the black community. This was demonstrated by the role of the church in our civil rights movements.

We need to go back to strong community organizations as far I know religion is the only way to do that at scale. You can teach everything at church, finance, literacy, parenting, life skills, everything.

Religion and families is the basis of community. Basis of the Jewish, Chinese, Korean and Indian communities in America.
 

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My favorite subject. A couple of things to point out here

  • (legal) Immigrants tend to do better economically than native citizens in general. This applies to all ethnic groups. For example most African and Carribean immigrants are better off economically than ADOS. The reason being is that it's very hard to immigrant here legally. So the ones that do, are often either the most well off, or the most driven from their home countries.
  • Asians tend to cluster in northeast and West coast. While most blacks are in the south. The north and west are expensive but you get what you pay for as they also have the best education systems and access to the most high paying jobs. The south is cheaper which is why it appeals to black ppl, but it also has garbage schools, healthcare, and the lowest wages in the country.
  • Education is hugely important to asians. Because they know it's the only way to go from lower class to upper middle class. A Chinese immigrant in NYC will live in a shoe box but will make sure their kids do well in class in order for them to go to an exam school and eventually an ivy. Then that kid will easily get a 6 figure job and move to a nice suburb and from then on they're pretty much locked into the upper middle class. I think this is the key. We should be doing everything we can to either live in areas with good school districts (and yes this probably means living amongst cacs) or the try our best to get our kids into top colleges. Also majors matter a lot. Our college attendance rates are actually pretty descent but we tend to pick trash liberal arts majors with low job prospects, instead of going the STEM route like asians do. So a lot of blacks end up graduating college with a shyt ton of debt only to work in a job that they didn't even need a degree for. Which fukks them over even more.
  • The next point is that asians tend to be dual income households. There's numerous studies which prove that children just end up better when they're raised by both parents in a single household. In asian cultures, marriage is something heavily pushed and divorce is looked down upon and shamed. It sucks if you don't like the person but the end results don't lie. Looks at how Indians go ham for arranged marriages, and then look at what their rank is in the chart above.... It speaks for itself.
  • Asians aren't afraid of multigenerational living. For one it gives married couples free childcare so they don't need to pay for expensive ass daycares. And two, when a person is done with high school/college, their parents don't immediately try to kick them out. They let the kid build their wealth and gain their footing. So they can start saving for a house and build capital without having to worry about rent. Also keep in mind the grandparents here, don't really work and if they do, it's low wage work like nail salons, or a Chinese restaurant. So these won't really be pushing the needle all that much.
Honestly the blueprint is right fukking there. Yeah WS will always be an impediment but there's nothing that the asian community does that we can't do.
 

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people who left the church are not coming back and it will continue to grow irrelevant. take all the organization and move it outside of religion. keep the values and build from there. "christian" values can be a way of life regardless of spiritual belief. they are the base information and foundation of the rules that govern us despite church and state being separate.
We used to have strong churches and that was the entire basis of the the black community. This was demonstrated by the role of the church in our civil rights movements.

We need to go back to strong community organizations as far I know religion is the only way to do that at scale. You can teach everything at church, finance, literacy, parenting, life skills, everything.

Religion and families is the basis of community. Basis of the Jewish, Chinese, Korean and Indian communities in America.
 
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