Damon Dash "I Dropped Kanye West Because…"

[Yung Yogurt]

“I think it was when Damon Dash had me and some other Roc-A-Fella artists come over. He stressed the importance of connecting with London, especially. Then we went to France, and I hated France when we first went there. Now, of course, I love it,” Kanye said in an interview. “But at the time, there was a rapper out of Chicago who wanted me to show up at some event of his, and he was trying to threaten me in some way physically if I didn’t show up because we had done a record together. And Dame Dash had to man-up on the situation and apply a bit of gangster to have them fall back, just for me to be able to get on that first flight to London.” Kanye West (Interview Magazine)

shyt like this is the reason that Koonyay should be looking out for Dame and Biggs. This is like the 5th story I heard about rocafella saving his ass (let's not forget about th estory where beans saved him from getting his shyt took in BK)

It's one thing to say "business is business" and all that other shyt about not owing another man anything but come on...these nigggas seem like they went out of their way to make Kanye comfortable and looked out for him like he was fam. Kanye has more than enough paper to throw Dame or Biggs some light change or even repay the favor in some type of sexual manner. That's some weak shyt to me! and I side with Dame on this issue even though he ain't perfect and looks to be losing his mind

 

[Still Benefited]

Well, we gotta ask ourselves, Was it business when Dame was payin hospital bills and month long hotel stays in Cali when you broke your jaw, when you were just makin BEATS (That he was BUYING FROM YOU).... Was it business when he was paying for you to shoot videos, cause the parent label wouldn't open a budget for you.. And he's sayin he did ALL OF THAT OFF THE STRENGTH OF BIGGS...Was it business when you was callin those same nikkas to hold you down and not get your chains snatched? Was it business when Dame had to step in and help stop you from gettin beat up in YOUR OWN CITY? Is it business when the very same shyt that got the dude locked up right now is the SAME shyt THAT Helped START THE LABEL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO JUMPSTART YOUR CAREER ON... thats the thing, it can't jUST BE BUSINESS WHEN IT's CONVENIENT... and WE, being WHO WE ARE can't afford to buy into that it's JUST BUSINESS shyt... No it's personal in HIP HOP, always has been..Business is EVEN PERSONAL... Especially when the business was started based on personal relationships.. Lol.. How you think Kanye got to them in the FIRST PLACE? (Through PERSONAL relationships that eventually led to BUSINESS). I'm not sayin Kanye is totally at fault here, because I don't know all the details, but from the outside lookin in, I can see why Dame might be a little frustrated wit him. Lol

What can I say,you sold me breh

 

[GunRanger]

Well, we gotta ask ourselves, Was it business when Dame was payin hospital bills and month long hotel stays in Cali when you broke your jaw, when you were just makin BEATS (That he was BUYING FROM YOU).... Was it business when he was paying for you to shoot videos, cause the parent label wouldn't open a budget for you.. And he's sayin he did ALL OF THAT OFF THE STRENGTH OF BIGGS...Was it business when you was callin those same nikkas to hold you down and not get your chains snatched? Was it business when Dame had to step in and help stop you from gettin beat up in YOUR OWN CITY? Is it business when the very same shyt that got the dude locked up right now is the SAME shyt THAT Helped START THE LABEL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO JUMPSTART YOUR CAREER ON... thats the thing, it can't jUST BE BUSINESS WHEN IT's CONVENIENT... and WE, being WHO WE ARE can't afford to buy into that it's JUST BUSINESS shyt... No it's personal in HIP HOP, always has been..Business is EVEN PERSONAL... Especially when the business was started based on personal relationships.. Lol.. How you think Kanye got to them in the FIRST PLACE? (Through PERSONAL relationships that eventually led to BUSINESS). I'm not sayin Kanye is totally at fault here, because I don't know all the details, but from the outside lookin in, I can see why Dame might be a little frustrated wit him. Lol

Kanye did Through The Wire video himself, and promoted it himself. Dame admitted this in a video.

 

[CoCKy GeNiuS]

Kanye thinks and reacts like a child, can't expect a nikka like him to man up and handle things like a man would...

Look at all the situations these nikkas got his ass out of, HE'S STILL THAT SAME nikka, just rich now....

 

[eldoradored]

GunRanger Yeah, I think you're right about that. I was confusing that situation with something else. Same thing with the hospital bills, I think that mighta been when Bleeks brother was in the accident...

 

[Easy-E]

I am amazed how scotch free Kanye is gettin' off in this thread.

I want to blame it on everyone's (rightful) Dame fatigue, but, no. Somehow even Jay-Z managed to be criticized more than Kanye, in a thread about Kanye's disloyalty.

We got ppl in here talmbout "it's just business/he don't owe them a thing." And ya'll prolly the same ones who thought Jay stole Kanye from Dame, Jay is a snake for the stuff he did in Big Brother, Jay never believed in him, Dame did, etc.

And supposedly, Kanye was the most pro-black rapper, when Yeezus dropped, now; it's all business

Look, Biggs got himself 5 years, but, that's not grounds to completely ignore someone who started your career, basically. Especially with all the stuntin' and black empowerment stuff, recently. Dame has a right to be upset.

And now, it makes more sense why Kanye left with Jay. He seems to have been leaning that way fora minute.

what the hell is dame end game with all this

I was actually listening to his last interview with @CombatJack and I'm even more upset he had to go off and get salty over the Joey IE interview (I haven't heard it, yet).

Dame actually dropped a lot of knowledge about the music industry and it was refreshing to hear it. Like @StillNotSoft says; these Me & My Barber vids go all everywhere and sound like rants. He's even dropped some jewels in 'nem, but, @CombatJack had him more grounded. Now, he's just airing out his personal griefs.

I honestly think this is some kind of passive aggresive attack at Jay for not handling Biggs legal fees and all that...jay had a way longer and stronger relationship with Bigs than ye did...if he's hurting like THAT, why wouldn't Jay be more beholden to hold him down than ye...but it's like dame is ashamed to call jay out, so he does it thru proxy via kanye

And Jay-Z's surprise appearance, in this thread.

Probably tryna prop his barber/ interviewer up to take my spot.

Stop it, @CombatJack.

I actually re listened to Dame Dash II, today, and it sounded like he could get something, in the future, real dope from you two. But, Dame had to go off about the Joey IE interview.

I still have yet to hear it, though.

The Chuck D interview is beautiful, too.

Does no one see any value in the principles Dame is talking about? Forget about who's sayin it for a moment, is there any value in the message? Lol... I think his point was, with all the assistance Kanye has benefitted from, he has not used his enormous influence and position to reciprocate some of the blessings bestowed upon him, to THOSE who bestowed them. Neither socially nor financially. These are the types of antics that don't go UNCHECKED in the real world amongst friends. But in the entertainment industry, it happens quite frequently. This then becomes the "Norm", and if not giving a fuc about the people who are partially responsible for your current success, status, and well being is the "Norm", then maybe it needs to become the "Norm" for nikkas who don't agree with that sentiment to speak out against it. I never heard Dame say Biggs was broke (Even if he was, it wouldn't matter. Thats why you've invested your time, money, and energy into PEOPLE like Kanye, and given them access to YOUR personal resources and relationships, in order to further develop the OVERALL network, and bring new friendships and alliances to the table as well, so that in the event you have to go away, or fall on hard times, those same people can help you sustain and get back on your feet if necessary....). Hell, invite the mans wife and kids to the concert when you in town. Send da nikka a Christmas card wit some flicks of the new Adidas line or somethin, write a rant or somethin dedicated to him,.. Give him a number to hit you up, see how he doin, listen to his ideas, let him hear a couple of new songs on speaker phone. Give him some inspiration and energy to feed off of while your star is still SHININ! Those things cost you NOTHING

Well, we gotta ask ourselves, Was it business when Dame was payin hospital bills and month long hotel stays in Cali when you broke your jaw, when you were just makin BEATS (That he was BUYING FROM YOU).... Was it business when he was paying for you to shoot videos, cause the parent label wouldn't open a budget for you.. And he's sayin he did ALL OF THAT OFF THE STRENGTH OF BIGGS...Was it business when you was callin those same nikkas to hold you down and not get your chains snatched? Was it business when Dame had to step in and help stop you from gettin beat up in YOUR OWN CITY? Is it business when the very same shyt that got the dude locked up right now is the SAME shyt THAT Helped START THE LABEL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO JUMPSTART YOUR CAREER ON... thats the thing, it can't jUST BE BUSINESS WHEN IT's CONVENIENT... and WE, being WHO WE ARE can't afford to buy into that it's JUST BUSINESS shyt... No it's personal in HIP HOP, always has been..Business is EVEN PERSONAL... Especially when the business was started based on personal relationships.. Lol.. How you think Kanye got to them in the FIRST PLACE? (Through PERSONAL relationships that eventually led to BUSINESS). I'm not sayin Kanye is totally at fault here, because I don't know all the details, but from the outside lookin in, I can see why Dame might be a little frustrated wit him. Lol

+rep

Kanye was talk talkin' the same culture vulture/pro-black stuff just last year and thecoli ate it up like Fruity Pebbles.

But, now, Dame's crazy for expecting it IRL.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

And Jay-Z's surprise appearance, in this thread.

Yeah...learn to read and take notice of context...that's not a criticism of Jay-Z, moreso an observation of what appears to be a reoccurring theme with Dame...dude's fairly obviously bitter and upset at how he and jay's business relationship and friendship dissolved...has gone on a sustained interview campaign where he'll run down lyor, explicitly, for driving a wedge between he and jay...run down steve stoute for, in his words, whoring out his clients (and what do you know Jay is his most prominent one) to various corporations ...run down kanye for not holding down biggs and his family because biggs played a part of his early success, when EVERYTHING he mentions about kanye in that regard applies to jay to a greater degree considering dame, biggs, and jays spent a decade as "brothers" and partners...just the entire concept of begging an already proven unloyal ex-employee to hold your "brother" and his family down (against your bro's wishes mind you), as part of some larger campaign where you keep talking about how big of a boss you are with so many businesses that mean you can never go broke and do whatever you want when you want to...while your other brother is worth the better part of a billion dollars, (where jay falls in all of this is a question that is dying to be asked, if these were any kind of legitimate interviews)..just seems weird, to say the least...it all just screams of some kind of proxy war he's fighting in the media, with jay being the primary unnamed target that he won't just out and out take aim at..as a matter of pride...so he'll attack everybody around him, and then go "Oh, I never blame Jay for anything...that's my brother"

 

[Pop123]

no man is obligated to financially support another, let alone obligated to financially support a former associate, it's a nice gesture and appreciated during trying times but even then it's not an obligation. it's amazing how these alleged former "street nikkas" think so weakly . i'm by no means a Kanye fan, or a Dame hater, but Biggs got bagged for being part of a super thick marijuana supplying ring that had the city on smash, that's a grown man who made millions off rap that willingly decided to remain selling drugs, he made his bed. notice dame mentioned how biggs is mad that dame is saying all this, thats because biggs is official, dame's logic regarding this is very weak/womanly, totally unofficial. dame and them held kanye down because he was a walking dollar sign in their eyes, they aint do that out of the kindness of their hearts, lol. i listen to dame and honestly cant believe that anyone takes him serious, the cakeaholic lost the paper and is all of a sudden pseudo virtuous, makes me sick

 

[I love Latina women]

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Don't forget it's "Corny to talk about another mans wallet"

I kept reminding myself of this very quote throughout the entire interview Dame did with Combat Jack. Dame kept sayin "it's corny to talk about another mans pockets/wallet" but he continued to talk about Beans, Spitta and all these other individuals' pockets

 

[DrX]

i used to ride with dame but now i can see why nobody wants to be around him....hes a bitter yapping a$$hole that treats grown men like children and then wonder why nobody wants to do business w/ him....dude chased everybody away from him

 

[Mac Casper]

this looks sad . . he should at least posture himself to be moving onto bigger things

 

[ajnapoleon]

Real talk.....has dame (or all his fans) admit any wrong in this situation?


There is proof that he was stealing money,firing people and not telling the other partners what he was doing in the business they built together etc....


Im not saying nobody is at fault but he is acting like they all did this to him and he was not in the wrong at all

 

[2stainz]

shyt like this is the reason that Koonyay should be looking out for Dame and Biggs. This is like the 5th story I heard about rocafella saving his ass (let's not forget about th estory where beans saved him from getting his shyt took in BK)

It's one thing to say "business is business" and all that other shyt about not owing another man anything but come on...these nigggas seem like they went out of their way to make Kanye comfortable and looked out for him like he was fam. Kanye has more than enough paper to throw Dame or Biggs some light change or even repay the favor in some type of sexual manner. That's some weak shyt to me! and I side with Dame on this issue even though he ain't perfect and looks to be losing his mind

@ the way you snuck in that fakkitry. The post was dropping knowledge and then all of sudden...boom, you get the bolded part

 

[Easy-E]

Real talk.....has dame (or all his fans) admit any wrong in this situation?


There is proof that he was stealing money,firing people and not telling the other partners what he was doing in the business they built together etc....


Im not saying nobody is at fault but he is acting like they all did this to him and he was not in the wrong at all

Oh no, I've come to the defense of Dame's message, not the actual guy.

I'm not gonna forget how he got on EVERYTHING, then swerved that question about owing Bean $11 Million.

I love the message of understanding the realities of C*pit*lism as the exploitation it is. But, I'm sure he's guilty of that also, for not for anything other him not wanting to talk about the Beans thing, but, everything else.