Dave East on The King of New York: "Jay Z and Nas Still Out Here

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Rappers are moving backward lyrically. Jay and Nas aren't old school either.

If you want the KONY title you gotta be able to rap at a high level not just be popular. There's not a new artist in the city who can do both.

Word . You got to earn that title. That shyt ain't given. Otherwise French Montana would of been the king when he had his "run".
 
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Was Big called King because he was "hot" or had a "buzz" in the city??? Or was it because he had something substantive like a classic album that sold mad units and continued to keep his name ringing by dropping platinum singles from said album??

And since Big was the hottest artist in the city, backed by dope album, singles, sales n airplay, nobody batted an eye when he went with the frank white moniker which implied kony.

Where is the lie?

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So was it time BI put in or was the talent level greater then compared to now? I’m beginning to think you just talk in circles :troll:
 

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How could I ever call somebody a king if I was worth more than 100 million and they were signed to a 360?
 

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Let me get a real NY nikka to school you.

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Show lil home the way
He named after Stringer Bell its clear he stuck in another dimension he not worth the time

This king shyt only happens for NY. I never seen a thread saying yo whose the king of LA rn? Who running Atlanta? Whose the king of Chicago?
 

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I love old school Hip Hop but nikkas got to move forward
With who?
This mentality has held back NY for decades

Imagine if Hov and Nas came thru thinking they could never surpass BDK and Rakim :snoop:
But they actually did...
That's funny?
Rappers are moving backward lyrically. Jay and Nas aren't old school either.

If you want the KONY title you gotta be able to rap at a high level not just be popular. There's not a new artist in the city who can do both.
Exactly.
 

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That doesn’t make sense, Hov and Nas are still out here though. It’s not like Atlanta dudes are coming out saying Future isn’t one of the chiefs just cause he came out 8 years ago. Not like people from Toronto are coming out saying Drake isn’t the king because he came out a decade ago.

If a dude falls off, he fell off. Jay dropped 4:44, better than all of these dudes albums except K Dot. Have bigger shows than all of these dudes except Drake. Still get the internet the most hype for his features and on. It’s not NY that is special, it’s Jay-z and Nas. NY not being able to reign supreme in hiphop has to do with the fact that it doesn’t make sense that 5-10% of the black population should run hiphop, like it once was if everyone else is rapping as well even to a higher degree. And imo, people who want to rap in NY aspiring to be lyrical instead of being 1 hit wonders or taking advantage probably didn’t help. The two that did that and blew up are both in jail.
Travis Scott and Cole have bigger shows than Jay z and they don’t have to discount their tickets
 
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