Dave East on The King of New York: "Jay Z and Nas Still Out Here

[Fade Runner 2049]

This mentality has held back NY for decades

Imagine if Hov and Nas came thru thinking they could never surpass BDK and Rakim

What . The whole reason why OP thought this was thread worthy is because it’s the opposite of what 99% of NY rappers say. They all say they are the king of NY. They all want to be the king and don’t look out for each other , that’s why they’ve been held back not because they have a humble outlook

 

[Bolzmark]

This mentality has held back NY for decades

Imagine if Hov and Nas came thru thinking they could never surpass BDK and Rakim

The problem is, nobody has come and surpassed Jay and Nas. Jay and Nas took it to another level over Rakim and Kane but the same has not been done in regards to them.

 

[010101]

it is tough because technically esco is held as the standard

then on the business side you got jigga

to be king in ny it takes more than just being popping

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[ISO]

The guys that come out as "spitters" y'all call generic because y'all "heard it before". The young nikkas that bring innovation using the voice as an instrument and bringing a new approach to song writing y'all hate on.

Funny how that works

 

[Pure Water]

I thought Kendrick was the King of New York?

Spoiler

 

[ISO]

The problem is, nobody has come and surpassed Jay and Nas. Jay and Nas took it to another level over Rakim and Kane but the same has not been done in regards to them.

It's never gonna be rappers like them again and it's not just a NY thing either.

What y'all see now is the evolution of rap. The guys who are out now are the ones taking it to "another level".

 

[010101]

@ISO folks really only rappidy.rap now if they can't get on the melodic wave

it's going back to feel & sound over content

a nikka like tony.sunshine was way too early ha

but for real the final.form will be a artist with real vocal talent but lyrically in tune with the streets

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[ISO]

it is tough because technically esco is held as the standard

then on the business side you got jigga

to be king in ny it takes more than just being popping

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50 need to be mentioned in this too

And actually 50 had it on lock in his prime moreso than Jay or Nas ever did

 

[mson]

It's never gonna be rappers like them again and it's not just a NY thing either.

What y'all see now is the evolution of rap. The guys who are out now are the ones taking it to "another level".

That's not an evolution, it's a transformation.

 

[010101]

50 need to be mentioned in this too

And actually 50 had it on lock in his prime moreso than Jay or Nas ever did

fif a legend & really might hold more influence with the young g's than esco/jigga as far as music goes

fif & the og's did a piss poor job of keeping their labels in tune by push the following generations

regardless the energy is something different in nyc it's really it's own world

it's like if you took the whole diaspora & blended the vibes up in the p's you'd get what nyc sound will be going forward

full circle it's coming right back to where it was born

X

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[ISO]

That's not an evolution, it's a transformation.

I think it's an evolution. It was clearly artists before the guys today that influenced them.

A transformation would suggest that it just happened out the blue.

But call it what you will it's the game now.

 

[mson]

I think it's an evolution. It was clearly artists before the guys today that influenced them.

A transformation would suggest that it just happened out the blue.

But call it what you will it's the game now.

An evolution would suggest that it's gotten better.

 

[ISO]

fif a legend & really might hold more influence with the young g's than esco/jigga as far as music goes

fif & the og's did a piss poor job of keeping their labels in tune by push the following generations

regardless the energy is something different in nyc it's really it's own world

it's like if you took the whole diaspora & blended the vibes up in the p's you'd get what nyc sound will be going forward

full circle it's coming right back to where it was born

X

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Facts

Most of the that post here don't understand this type of shyt

 

[ISO]

An evolution would suggest that it's gotten better.

Better, is a relative term my brother.

Some things aren't for us.

 

[mson]

Better, is a relative term my brother.

Some things aren't for us.