David Banner calls out "lyrical rappers" and "conscious rappers" to put the music first

[who killin it?]

Except ya'll aint' with David Banner like that, so this is just another Kendrick bashing thread.

of course not, these smart-dumb clowns got feelings on full blast this week
they cosign by repeating the same words in different order

wake up every morning hating on nikkas from your phones and be too depressed to get out of bed, brehs

 

[Art Barr]

to me the important thing is the beat, and how the mc's voice sounds over it. I'd rather listen to Group Home than a lot of these lyrical miracles

that being said, these dudes don't intend to make wack music or outshine the beat. they just don't have access to good beats

I am not listening to group home rappers ever and Dey been had a group home instrumental vinyl.
so I did not have to sit through the fukk'n sufferin of that huff wack shyt.
nikkaz wack as hell if they trying to make an argument for group home. Group home, the actual rapping part as they are the issue in this too.
Wack rappers are the fukk'n issue.
Voice over artist flodge'n is the issue.

It is a reason why chunky a did not resonate culturally.
Now they have instead of Arsenio in a fat suit.
They have a correctional officer impersonating the origins of the biggest contra government supplied revenue grab coup in American history. While also impersonating biggie.
So shyt we been outlawed.

That is the issue and the problem.
Rap being priced out of the jurisdiction for the culture of hiphop to police its own industry of rap.




Art Barr

 

[Born2BKing]

Big Sean is the example of how to do both

 

[Art Barr]

The problem is rap is over run with wack emcees with a whole bunch of character and voice over protrayal radio tv class semantics and jingle writer parody based c00nery and buffonery.

Where no actual real emcees are actually really getting to make or produce a profit in their culture's industry.
As the industry of their culture has been culturally stripped from them and also priced completely out of their realm of profit making.

That is the problem.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Big Sean is the example of how to do both

Big Sean is just another classically trained child actor failed star who turned to rap.
He is corporately endorsed.
Duke is the equivalent of what if silento can make the what used to be hard transition of classically trained jingle writers and radio tv students needed a corporate job.
He is no emcee he is just an art school actor.
The problem is actors from art school who are not emcees but classically trained actor and show writers being funnelled into an industry made by people who those resources were distinctly taken from and then when they created their own everything were told they were not making music.


shyt is a complete sellout driven slap in the face.

To the point he is on Kanye label and Kanye continues to pump out that MCA way sellout white man made voice over rap.
Which is now over run with the very people.
who not supposed to even be making money in hiphop but get to because hip hip's industry of rap was taken from hiphop.


It is some complete bullshyt.


Art Barr

 

[SunZoo]

So, in five years.

Did David banner actually learn to be a dope emcee.
Not a wack rapper without playing this whole I am finally woke rapper.
who still can't really rhyme really well without having to cling to preachy turn of character marketing on some fake Malcom x shyt.
That been played out as that is the problem with rap culturally appropriating being an emcee.
See the problem with the rap industry was it needed to drive the culture of hiphop out of rap.
That is the problem.

When the culture was driven away rappers.
who were wack like David banner got to get on and rap and not just produce and flodge at rapping to get a bag.

So, real talk this whole double back door of the wack emcees trying to appeal to and pander after selling out.
Are all the same.
Just be dope as applying to the culture, and your pillars.
instead of being culturally disengenuine then pandering back to us.

All the wack rappers flooding into the game with no idea of hiphop as a culture are the issue.

That means wack rappers culturally and skill wise as far as emcee'n.
As rappin is also some sellout shyt because it culturally appropriates the actual emcee that rap music is based off of in an actual gross parody.

The problem is rap music lets nikkaz who are not emcees make a joke of an art form where someone is actually culturally trying to take themselves off the street by being an actual emcee.
The problem with rappers is they may not be culturally aware at all about being an actual emcee.
Not a rapper but an emcee.
They will try to hide behind characters, media, production, production quality, etc.
At the end of the day are they an actual real skilled real time emcee.

That is the question and real talk, the problem culturally is emcee are being priced out of the marketplace from an industry built off of being an emcee.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

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Ayo this might just be the best Breakfast club interview I've seen in a minute. David Banner really came armed with that real!

@12:54 We gotta get black people to love themselves again! It's psychology it's not business!

Brehs be like "you gotta get black folks educated in business, multimillionaires gotta do x-y-z..." The truth is you can teach black people about business, but if we don't like ourselves subliminally [all that black human capital is just gonna cop more white products].

Cotdamn that hit like a brick on window.

I really believe there's a whole psychological work that black people as a community gotta put each other through as the first step towards black empowerment/economics.

It is all a pander breh,...
All a wack rapper non skilled emcee long con pander.

They all do it.
Go and try to be on tv and radio and tell everybody why they should be forgiven for making us sit through forty eight bars of wack rap non emcee skilled outdated offkey verses.


Don't listen to that c Delores tucker politician for hire type bullshyt.

Was dude a dope emcee from his first record line for line and can he spit right then off the top with out memorized verses off his fukk'n records and can he authenicate his skills.
That is all we want.
The sellouts like these guys want a rapper to be like look see mom.
My fail outta school plan can still work.
I can be a fake scholar and a fake rapper just like these guys
When they will never be an emcee and never really be believed as culturally really genuine because they are nit inherently genuine emcee culturally skill wise right now at all.

I can guarantee you all wack rappers are outdated technical base guys in some form and that is all this shyt is at the very end of the day.
So whether you get fooled as to when the decline off their draw began.

Just know in the end the decline of their draw has began whether you or them were privy or not.

Art Barr


Cultural ignorance is not an excuse.
when you are cultural thief culturally misappropiating a culture driven industry.

 

[SunZoo]

The problem is rap is over run with wack emcees with a whole bunch of character and voice over protrayal radio tv class semantics and jingle writer parody based c00nery and buffonery.

Where no actual real emcees are actually really getting to make or produce a profit in their culture's industry.
As the industry of their culture has been culturally stripped from them and also priced completely out of their realm of profit making.

That is the problem.



Art Barr

I like I said.

When you conflate RAP MUSIC with Hip Hop, your only way 'in' is either consuming music making music for consumption. Everything these nikkas talk about or deem important in relation to what they think they are engaging in is grounded in the framework of falsehood. A lot of these rappers, shouldn't/wouldn't be rapping. They would either not give a shyt about rap or anything else related or they would have found another skill based way to get 'in' but this is all they have been given, it ain't even their fault.

I like the name "Godbox" he spoke about it on DJ Vulture a while ago and I figured maybe he just gave up on it....if all he's going to do with the name/concept "God-box" is make another album...

 

[Art Barr]

I like I said.

When you conflate RAP MUSIC with Hip Hop, your only way 'in' is either consuming music making music for consumption. Everything these nikkas talk about or deem important in relation to what they think they are engaging in is grounded in the framework of falsehood. A lot of these rappers, shouldn't/wouldn't be rapping. They would either not give a shyt about rap or anything else related or they would have found another skill based way to get 'in' but this is all they have been given, it ain't even their fault.

I like the name "Godbox" he spoke about it on DJ Vulture a while ago and I figured maybe he just gave up on it....if all he's going to do with the name/concept "God-box" is make another album...

With a name like god box as an album name.
It would connotate trying to infringe culturally upon the land of dope emcees who have a cultural root in the five percenters.
Of which David banner is not a dope emcee and not even in the distinction to culturally understand what god box even means culturally in rap as an album defining statement.

It is just complete bullshyt.

Just more and more wack emcee pandering.



Art Barr

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

I'm telling yall, shyt is going to get worse as time progress. Lyricism will eventually die out due to a higher demographic of fans chasing the next thing the machine throws at them. Kendrick holding it down but it's not awakening the youngins at all because that demographic is addicted to the fast food bullshyt. At least during the ringtone/ice bling era, there was a sense of choice. Now, everything has to have a trap beat, drug/sex influence, and slam in the clubs.

I'm sorry to say this, its either find another genre or genres to fall back on...or continue to be dusty with your music picks because there's no growth in this game unless a miracle happens.

 

[Still Benefited]

Ayo this might just be the best Breakfast club interview I've seen in a minute. David Banner really came armed with that real!

@12:54 We gotta get black people to love themselves again! It's psychology it's not business!

Brehs be like "you gotta get black folks educated in business, multimillionaires gotta do x-y-z..." The truth is you can teach black people about business, but if we don't like ourselves subliminally [all that black human capital is just gonna cop more white products].

Cotdamn that hit like a brick on window.

I really believe there's a whole psychological work that black people as a community gotta put each other through as the first step towards black empowerment/economics.

Love is important, but Fred Hampton warned us of people getting caught up in the "emotionalist movement"...we see alot of that among our people too.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I always see the term lyrical miracle on here. Who are these rappers? I promise you it's a small segment of the game

 

[African Peasant]

The MC doesn't make the music; he needs to focus on his flow, delivery and LYRICS.

Rap is a special type of music because the main man, the MC, is not a musician. A singer is musician, not a rapper.

The non lyrical rappers don't even make the music you're bouncing your head/ass to.

This is a weird statement by Banner.

 

[Newzz]

Kendrick is a lyricist who puts the music first.

TPAB & Untitled says otherwise



Jay-Z was a lyricist who put the music first

 

[Newzz]

to me the important thing is the beat, and how the mc's voice sounds over it. I'd rather listen to Group Home than a lot of these lyrical miracles

that being said, these dudes don't intend to make wack music or outshine the beat. they just don't have access to good beats

Exactly.


Which is why no matter how hard rappity rap fans wanna argue, someone like Jeezy will go down in history as > someone like Lupe due to the fact Jeezy made great MUSIC while Lupe couldn't reach that level even though he was better with the technical skills