David Banner calls out "lyrical rappers" and "conscious rappers" to put the music first

[The Intergalactic Koala]

On another note, why folks hate conscious rap so much that they are breaking a keyboard to defend a misguided generation of rappers? It's like folks hate knowledge and maybe the ability to think in this world where technology dictates our every move. Some of the opinions in this thread reminds me of why we don't have flying cars or engage in time traveling, because motherfukkers would rather get a 2 for 5 Big Mac meal over elevation. Trust, I'm not one of those herb type of dudes either as I do bump ignorant shyt from time to time, but there is a time and place for such actions. There has to be a balance in hip hop for the sake of not only the cultural but the lifestyle that it leads.

I reflect back during the 2000s, hip hop had its share of shyt but there were positive vibes that came from it. Folks wanted to go to college, invest in businesses, and other ventures. What these new rappers trying to accomplished other than liver damage? None of them trying to spit some real shyt of owning stock and other ventures we as people need to do. Its either whipping dope with an uzi and other nonsense. While the shyt sounds dope...where's the end game? What happens next?

 

[SirBiatch]

His discography is beyond fast food when folks are still eating off of TPAB. It's not just one person that needs to change the game, it takes a good amount to make an impact but Kenny can help give artists a glimpse. That's like saying that if Nas was really as nice as people pretend he was, then folks would get off the west coast dikk, when in reality....it took a good amount of rappers to add a balance to the game.

As far as him making songs abount mental illness, social alienation, being broke, and feelings of insecurity.....ummm TPAB covered all of those aspects. Matter of fact Section 80 alone got deeper in the current generation of youngins and millennials in general as far as the feeling of being lost and misguided. How is Kenny a fast food rapper when majority of his songs have a strong meaning towards them. I mean wtf.?

Now as far as him playing it a bit safe, you got a point...but beyond that...nah dude.

TPAB is the giant ramble about everything while saying nothing. There is no song on there that is specifically about mental illness and saying something relevant about it. "How much a dollar cost" is not about being broke - it's a fugazi ramble that mentions homelessness and Heaven. Young kids are more unemployed than their predecessors. If I asked you to provide a quotable about any of those topics, you'd ramble, post an entire verse or flee the thread. If Kendrick can't discuss important shyt with clarity, it simply doesn't matter. And that's why this era isn't inspired by Kendrick no matter how much y'all pretend. Kendrick follows the turn-ups, not the other way around.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Much respect to David banner.

Dude was talking that real the entire interview.

These rappers need to make dope music the top priority. Stop goofing around.

Easily the best interview the breakfast club has had.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

TPAB is the giant ramble about everything while saying nothing. There is no song on there that is specifically about mental illness and saying something relevant about it. "How much a dollar cost" is not about being broke - it's a fugazi ramble that mentions homelessness and Heaven. Young kids are more unemployed than their predecessors. If I asked you to provide a quotable about any of those topics, you'd ramble, post an entire verse or flee the thread. If Kendrick can't discuss important shyt with clarity, it simply doesn't matter. And that's why this era isn't inspired by Kendrick no matter how much y'all pretend. Kendrick follows the turn-ups, not the other way around.

To each it's own. How in depth does Kenny have to be in order to address the problem? If he goes deeper with the issue, then it would go over peoples heads...but if he dumb it down like he did with TPAB, then he's not doing enough. Dude can't win at all. As I stated before, it takes more than just Kenny to move the masses...but at least dude is letting folks get a glimpse which is really important in this day and age.

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

I always see the term lyrical miracle on here. Who are these rappers? I promise you it's a small segment of the game

Nikkas like cannibus

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

Dudes wonder why Ross is so well regarded...dude LISTENS before he raps.

A lot of artists don't do that.

Ross is a musician that's why.

 

[SirBiatch]

To each it's own. How in depth does Kenny have to be in order to address the problem? If he goes deeper with the issue, then it would go over peoples heads...but if he dumb it down like he did with TPAB, then he's not doing enough. Dude can't win at all. As I stated before, it takes more than just Kenny to move the masses...but at least dude is letting folks get a glimpse which is really important in this day and age.

He won't because he can't. Kendrick's never been deep. He's as surface level as any pop artist/trap rapper, except he substitutes molly and percocets for "the homies" and "Jesus".

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

On another note, why folks hate conscious rap so much that they are breaking a keyboard to defend a misguided generation of rappers? It's like folks hate knowledge and maybe the ability to think in this world where technology dictates our every move. Some of the opinions in this thread reminds me of why we don't have flying cars or engage in time traveling, because motherfukkers would rather get a 2 for 5 Big Mac meal over elevation. Trust, I'm not one of those herb type of dudes either as I do bump ignorant shyt from time to time, but there is a time and place for such actions. There has to be a balance in hip hop for the sake of not only the cultural but the lifestyle that it leads.

I reflect back during the 2000s, hip hop had its share of shyt but there were positive vibes that came from it. Folks wanted to go to college, invest in businesses, and other ventures. What these new rappers trying to accomplished other than liver damage? None of them trying to spit some real shyt of owning stock and other ventures we as people need to do. Its either whipping dope with an uzi and other nonsense. While the shyt sounds dope...where's the end game? What happens next?

bruh, if the music sounds good, people fukk with it.

There was "conscious" songs on fukking video game soundtracks.

The content isn't the problem...its the fact people equate "depth" with quality.

The only thing that determines quality is the music.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

To each it's own. How in depth does Kenny have to be in order to address the problem? If he goes deeper with the issue, then it would go over peoples heads...but if he dumb it down like he did with TPAB, then he's not doing enough. Dude can't win at all. As I stated before, it takes more than just Kenny to move the masses...but at least dude is letting folks get a glimpse which is really important in this day and age.

see now you're just covering up for his flaws instead of letting the music breathe

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yeah and where she at now?

Artists need to make a impact on the game for longevity purposes and enlighten a bit, rather than make a "hot song". That's just me though...

where is she at?

Thats not the debate.

The point is ya'll say lyrics don't sell

They DO sell. Y'all just hate putting effort into making the shyt sound dope

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

His discography is beyond fast food when folks are still eating off of TPAB. It's not just one person that needs to change the game, it takes a good amount to make an impact but Kenny can help give artists a glimpse. That's like saying that if Nas was really as nice as people pretend he was, then folks would get off the west coast dikk, when in reality....it took a good amount of rappers to add a balance to the game.

As far as him making songs abount mental illness, social alienation, being broke, and feelings of insecurity.....ummm TPAB covered all of those aspects. Matter of fact Section 80 alone got deeper in the current generation of youngins and millennials in general as far as the feeling of being lost and misguided. How is Kenny a fast food rapper when majority of his songs have a strong meaning towards them. I mean wtf.?

Now as far as him playing it a bit safe, you got a point...but beyond that...nah dude.

attempts at discussing a topic don't matter.

Execution is all that matters.

 

[semicko82]

How the fukk did I or you forget Rick Ross. He owns this subject

You're right. Ross is getting better lyrically plus his ear for music is dope.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

bruh, if the music sounds good, people fukk with it.

There was "conscious" songs on fukking video game soundtracks.

The content isn't the problem...its the fact people equate "depth" with quality.

The only thing that determines quality is the music.

I see your point with this argument. What I'm trying to say is that while people fukk with the music that is considered good, why alienate the positive side of what some artists are bringing to the table? There are some folks that just want to punch a wall because folks are getting tired of the druggy shyt and want something with a bit of substance to the music. This is coming from a dude that's a big No Limit fanboy and often bump ignorant shyt, but my true passion has always been raps that have a bit of depth to it. Migos can only go so far in my life. I'm 32 years old...I can't relate to whipping dope with an uzi, but I damn sure can relate to what Phonte talks about as far as love, paying the bills, and family members tooting their noses up at his life choices. -

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Nikkas like cannibus

Exactly my point. None of these dudes made it big

 

[semicko82]

The thing when you doing conscious music is to not preach, make it relatable, and the music is dope. Outkast mastered this because they would drop gems through all their music but it was you could also jam to it