David Banner calls out "lyrical rappers" and "conscious rappers" to put the music first

[ePiffany]

The problem is rap is over run with wack emcees with a whole bunch of character and voice over protrayal radio tv class semantics and jingle writer parody based c00nery and buffonery.

Where no actual real emcees are actually really getting to make or produce a profit in their culture's industry.
As the industry of their culture has been culturally stripped from them and also priced completely out of their realm of profit making.

That is the problem.



Art Barr

I literally had these feelings about the game currently but cud never articulate it.

These nikkas do sound EXACTLY like jingle writers who happen to be able 2 rap a little-and I do mean a little.

 

[prophecypro]

Lyrical miracle rap died in 2000s. Really 90s but their were a few left. Guysblike slaughterhouse are trash imo no matter how well they rap. I rather heAr a lost boyz with their "simple" lyrics than a "mc universal" with the bars. Guys who can blend it all together are the real greats ie. nas, jay, etc

Thats why indont fukk with guys like kweli. His music, voice, etc etc is all grating as fukk. The music def comes last for that guy

hmmm yes and no. I mean look guys like Earl Sweatshirt, Logic, Run the Jewels and Joey Badass are not as big as Migos but like they have a fanbase that isn't dead either and comprimised of young fans. So its still out there

 

[John Hull]

David banner is wack

LOL Thank you.

 

[John Hull]

First off, none of these dudes are THAT intelligent.

Lets get that out of the way

Second, if these dudes wanna "spit knowledge" they'd be better off writing a blog or giving a lecture. Cause most of their shyt belongs in a slam poetry jam, not on a wasted beat

How presumptuous of you. Sound like a cac. I doubt you are black.

 

[semicko82]

Big Sean is the example of how to do both

Also Nas, Kendrick, Drake, Jay Z

 

[John Hull]

I have a feeling you guys are just afrraid of rappers with an ounce of "consciousness" and you dismiss everything as "it doesn't bang", "it's not MUSICAL" or some stupid shyt like that.

Kendrick got these boys going cray cray cause he makes hits and gets critical acclaim too, so they can't pigeonhole him into the lyrical miracle irrelevant camp. They losing it

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

How presumptuous of you. Sound like a cac. I doubt you are black.

Spoiler

 

[semicko82]

That's horrible

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

He's right. A lot of these cornballs hide behind being conscious as an excuse to make trash music.

reminds me of when singers go gospel when their shyt flops

 

[John Hull]

Spoiler

nikka quick as hell with them receipts. So you a c00n, that's even worse. Up here typing up novels about how smart rappers are all dumb and all music should be dumbed down for you to enjoy

 

[Born2BKing]

Also Nas, Kendrick, Drake, Jay Z

How the fukk did I or you forget Rick Ross. He owns this subject

 

[SirBiatch]

reminds me of when singers go gospel when their shyt flops

I don't care for South Park but the first song is funny

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Bruh, YOUNG M.A. had the song of the year last year and she was straight spitting.

BECAUSE IT SOUNDS GOOD

Y'all can't keep saying this

Yeah and where she at now?

Artists need to make a impact on the game for longevity purposes and enlighten a bit, rather than make a "hot song". That's just me though...

 

[AldavisAlbundyAllah!]

There's two types of writers, Class 1 and Class 2. Class 1 are more cinematic and straightforward, so people enjoy them because they're simple to understand and have easy to follow plot lines. Like books that get on a best seller's list. Like Biggie's "Warning". These types make straight forward music videos/movie scripts.

Class 2 writers focus more on the artistic merits of words themselves. They inherently sell less, because they have different artistic intentions and the audience has to work more for satisfaction by having to pay more attention to the individual words. So it doesn't make sense to point out someone like Joey Bada$$ or Nas' record sales, because they have completely different artistic intentions. They're making pieces of art that are inherently not-best seller potential, for their own specific reasons.

It's not a matter of 'not being able to pull it off', everyone just has a subjective perspective of what the purpose of "art" is, and they embody these different ideas in separate ways using different techniques to achieve their goals. If everyone had the same homogeneous view of what hip-hop is supposed to be, it would completely go against the original intent of hip-hop/art in general which is to express your inner creativity.

Telling a lyrical rapper to be less literary is like telling a poet to write a movie script.

It's okay if you prefer one style over the other, but engaging in some frivolous war against lyricism in threads all over these boards like I see you do is a complete waste of time and energy.

Talk that shyt breh

I'm def picking you in a 5 on 5 debate team.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Kendrick is the epitome of fast food bullshyt. It's not awakening the young cats because his music doesn't come from a real place and he aint saying shyt.

If Kendrick was really as nice as people pretend he is, the game would change overnight because people would be actually inspired. Instead of him rambling about the homies in Compton, Kendrick should be making songs about mental illness, social alienation, being broke and feelings of insecurity - shyt that actual young cats go through in large numbers but are too shook/arrogant to discuss. It would raise the bar. LOL at using Kendrick for an example when he makes safe ass music sharking Drake/Future/Migos sounds.

His discography is beyond fast food when folks are still eating off of TPAB. It's not just one person that needs to change the game, it takes a good amount to make an impact but Kenny can help give artists a glimpse. That's like saying that if Nas was really as nice as people pretend he was, then folks would get off the west coast dikk, when in reality....it took a good amount of rappers to add a balance to the game.

As far as him making songs abount mental illness, social alienation, being broke, and feelings of insecurity.....ummm TPAB covered all of those aspects. Matter of fact Section 80 alone got deeper in the current generation of youngins and millennials in general as far as the feeling of being lost and misguided. How is Kenny a fast food rapper when majority of his songs have a strong meaning towards them. I mean wtf.?

Now as far as him playing it a bit safe, you got a point...but beyond that...nah dude.