Word on road is AJ had that thang on him at the restaurant and immediately clapped Tony’s killer.
David chase finally confirms tony soprano got killed
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PoorAndDangerous
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it was blatantly obvious he was dead, but my boys kept saying "it's up for interpretation" everytime I brought it up, pissed me off
And if he was going to kill Ralph, it should've been when NY wanted to do it. Not sometime later for the dude just to disappear.
DaddyFresh
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You don’t think a MOB family would care to look like bytches? You can’t kill a 5 family boss without the approval of the commission. Butchie and Tony didn’t have that. If you think they don’t care why didn’t they just wack Phil themselves and hire a hit man? They knew where he was hiding. Butchie would have got murked if that came out. The second half of your post is spot on tho.
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phil BY FAR cares more about the “values” of the mafia than anyone else on the show. its part of why he is such a bad boss
the best boss on the show is carmine and he doesnt give a shyt about any of that, just business
He will always be alive in The Sopranos video game
It is not a straight up ripoff, because there are difference in the movies. But you will notice right away where the characters Vito Corleone and Michael Corleone came from. Marlon Brando played the Edgar G. Robinson role and Al Pacino played the same role that Richard Conte played. The House of Strangers even had a dim witted son like Fredo Corleone; a playboy son like Sonny Corleone and the background smart son like the adopted Tom White played. The ending in House of Strangers is definitely not like the Godfather, but the movie have a lot of similarities between the father and sons. As a matter of fact you will not be able to ignore how similar these movies are, because it is just going to jump out at you.
"...However, with House of Strangers Conte straddles the line between most of his other roles. Ruthless when he needs to be, capable of a grudge even, and still generally affectionate of the ones he loves. It’s arguably his most far-ranging and nuanced performance of the whole lot and he does a sterling job.
Because to drag The Godfather comparison out further, if Robinson is Vito, in some regards, the most prominent figure in the film, then Conte’s Max is Michael, the son who soon comes into his own and becomes the new center. He owns the picture just as Pacino ultimately became emblematic of The Godfather as a dynasty... ."
House of Strangers (1949)
Laura's Review: B+
This surprising dysfunctional family noir from Joseph L. Mankiewicz foreshadows "The Godfather" in many ways. Edward G. Robinson is an Italian immigrant who has risen through the ranks of the lower East Side where Gino's Bank is financial refuge to those with no collateral. Gino is visited by people of the neighborhood all asking for favors as if he were Don, and like Don Corleone, while Gino looks out for women and children, his 'favors' come with a price. Gino also manipulates his sons, keeping them under his thumb with the promise of the bank as their inheritance. In the meantime, he keeps eldest, Joe, in check as a teller ('Get back to your cage!') despite the promise of a raise when Joe married (to WASPy Elaine (Diana 'mother of Michael' Douglas) who expected a moneyed lifestyle). Pietro, an amateur boxer, is ordered about, called a 'dumbhead' and stripped of his Monetti robe when he loses the bout dad's finally come to see. Tony is a flash guy who tries to keep the peace but without much conviction. Max, however, is on his own as a lawyer, engaged to good Italian girl Maria (Debra Paget, "Love Me Tender") when he falls under the spell of client Irene Bennett (Susan Hayward). The film, which was adapted from a novel by Philip Yordan ("Johnny Guitar") with uncredited work from word man Mankiewicz, is notable for its shades of gray. Gino sees himself as a benefactor and, at times, is even portrayed that way, but gradually we learn how his usurous loans indenture many of his customers. He tries to instill a work ethic in his sons, a good thing, but belittles them in public and private, using his power to control. Max, also, isn't just the story's hero as can be seen most obviously through his romantic attachments. But his ability to stand on his own gives him a unique perspective. The film has some purple prose in its early goings, but Mankiewicz had a sophisticated ear for dialogue and it shows here. The film was shot by "All About Eve's" Milton R. Krasner in noir style, even without the genre's black, rain-drenched streets. The ensemble, including Esther Minciotti ("Marty") as the family's shattered matriarch, all hit their pitch in fine form. Mankiewicz has attained a family portrait made up of distinct individuals. He also stages a doozy of a scene in a restaurant whose patrons are a study in character traits and whose owner/waiter glides about as if on roller skates (Jack Chefe in a standout supporting role). "House of Strangers" was clearly influential (star Conte even went on to play "The Godfather's" Don Barzini), but unfortunately somewhat overshadowed by Mankiewicz's own "A Letter to Three Wives," for which he won writing and directing Oscars that same year (he won the same two again for his masterpiece, "All About Eve"). All these years later, "House of Strangers" may very well be the more interesting film.
House of Strangers - Reeling Reviews
I'm not sure that Butch knew exactly where Phil was. Phil was willing to handle shyt over the phone instead of agreeing to a meet. He didn't trust Butch or Albie.
DaddyFresh
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You right that could be true as well. But if Tony lives and it gets out butchie gave him the greenlight. What do you think happens? Butchie is as good as dead. The other families will kill him because they wouldn’t want their underlyings getting any ideas. Even though they don’t give one personal fukk about Phil. Butchie only play would be to kill Tony as soon as Phil gets wacked and blame it on the war.
he doesnt know.
in the conversation over the phone when butchie ends up in chinatown they make it clear butchie doesnt know where phil is.
then at the sit down they pretend like they know and “cant go there”
