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Sure, I understand you're making that differentiation. My points are about the Democratic Party and leadership de-motivating people to not vote by refusing to adopt a strong agenda. You seem to believe running as not-Trump should be enough, but it isn't. You need to tell people how you're better. And that becomes more difficult when you're committed to doing jack shyt because you kowtow to your donors and have no moral weight behind your politics.
You want democrats to defend unpopular positions on gender ideology but seem to not grasp why “normie men” are leaving the party.
 

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Didn't she say as much?

“There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of — and I’ve been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact,” she said, going on to talk about the administration’s work capping the cost of insulin at $35 for Medicare recipients.

She appeared to backtrack on that answer later in the show.

“You asked me what is the difference between Joe Biden and me — that will be one of the differences. I’m going to have a Republican in my Cabinet,” she said, reiterating a pledge she made during a CNN interview in August.


This would seem to imply she was ok with the decisions he made oh except she wanted to include a republican in her cabinet.
Trump spent the most money on this ad. If you can’t figure out why kamala lost then this conversation is finished.

 

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Its too late,the "radicalization" is already occuring.




We told you this L was a win win situation. The Tea Party formed when Republicans lost and Obama won. The same splintering is happening now with this massive Kamala/Democratic failure,and has been happening. This is why ive been saying we need to get together as black men and be at the forefront of this thing



The thought leaders of Tea Party/MAGA was simply based on who was first to be the loudest and get the most attention. Its imperative that that be us. Or it will be someone else who will probably have goofy ideas like the Tea Party did,who you will be forced to conform to,or be left out because they got the juice.:respect:
A black centered party will not work and I suggest you abandon this as soon as possible for your own sake of just conserving your own energy.
 

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You're speaking out of both sides of your mouth. First you say it's disingenuous to say Kamala didn't suitably separate herself from the actions of the Biden Administration, and when you're shown that she didn't separate herself from the Biden Administration, you say of course she didn't separate herself because it would have ruined her campaign. She showed political cowardice and was punished for it.

The nuance you claim is needed to succeed in politics just led Democrats to lose the popular vote for the first time in 20 years to an established piece of shyt moron.
OK, vice presidents shouldn’t run for office.

Just admit this.
 

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Until the dems have the balls to nominate someone willing to go on stage, say the truth and tell the person 70+ million people voted for years earlier and millions again voted for months prior to fukk off, the party will never be united and we will deserve Trump and all the devastation he brings :skip:

Bernie Sanders backs Biden and urges Democrats to ‘stop the bickering’​

This article is more than 9 months old
Senator hails ‘most effective president in modern history’ and says Biden is strongest bet to beat ‘demagogue’ Trump

Oliver Milman
Sat 13 Jul 2024 14.29 EDT

Yep. We need more democrats saying “you fukking idiots deserve this” instead of chasing the “we need to listen to the people” bullshyt.

People want to be LED, not listened to.

Trump doesn’t listen to the people. Trump tells people what the deal is.
 

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Your arguments all feature the same structural mistake; the election isn't solely decided by the voters of either candidate/party, non-voters always play a decisive role because the margin of victory is always smaller than the amount of non-voters. The major reason Trump won is because millions of people who voted in the last election chose to sit out of this one, and low turnout races favor Republicans. When Kamala was first subbed in she generated a massive wave of energy and enthusiasm - the key factors that translate into turnout - based on her cultivating the assumption that she would be the change candidate in this election. But midway through her campaign she chose to pivot to a turnout-depressing strategy of branding herself as Biden 2.0 and rolling out a weak tea policy platform. That paved the way for Trump's low-turnout path to victory. Yes, some ignorant low info men flipped from Biden voters to Trump voters, but they could have been numerically outvoted by youth, leftist and disinterested voters who sat out because of the way Kamala chose to run the back half of her campaign. The campaign's entire strategy was that these voters could be sacrificed because they would be replaced in number by Anti-Trump pro-Impeachment Republicans like Liz Cheney. Failed horribly.


This isn't really true. Most of the anti-genocide leftist influencers I saw were cautiously optimistic to excited about Kamala replacing Biden because it felt like an upgrade and victory to have Biden out of the paint. During the first half of the campaign when Kamala was riding high on change vibes, they were willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/12/nx-s1-5060109/israel-gaza-uncommitted-michigan-harris

The sentiment only really started shifting when she said she wouldn't be a break from Biden on this issue and started telling protestors to fukk off, culminating in banning anyone with Palestinian blood from appearing on stage at her DNC. It significantly drove down the stakes of the election to people with genocide as their red line for supporting a candidate.

And contrary to your claim, people are out in the streets protesting the Trump Administration's anti-Palestinian actions



Strongest Republican candidate of all time but a 78 year old gaffe prone geriatric fool who was stuck doing virtual campaigning because of a pandemic beat him. :coffee:


@Loose get your people


Perfect amalgamation as to why Gaza abstainers should be ignored going forward.

Smoke for AOC but no smoke for Republicans and Trump.

Trump would be able to beat any Republican you can think of in a Republican primary in this climate.

It took a Herculean effort with record breaking turnout to beat Trump in 2020, your downplaying of Biden isn’t doing you any favors because Biden beat your favorite dem candidate in the primary. A primary filled with diverse liberal thought
 

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It's it crazy the only time dems won against Trump was when they was actually promising to offer voters something that was led by progressives pushing through Overton window ? It almost like voters want significant change not more of the same :ohhh:.isn't it even crazier that trump ran on being a change candidate too and won twice:mindblown:
Hmm which is a more through line? Trump beating two women or whatever gobbledygook you’re regurgitating.

Going to apply Occam’s razor to this one and go with the former
 

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Perfect amalgamation as to why Gaza abstainers should be ignored going forward.

Smoke for AOC but no smoke for Republicans and Trump.

Trump would be able to beat any Republican you can think of in a Republican primary in this climate.

It took a Herculean effort with record breaking turnout to beat Trump in 2020, your downplaying of Biden isn’t doing you any favors because Biden beat your favorite dem candidate in the primary. A primary filled with diverse liberal thought
Let the democratic rebuild begin by holding AOC accountable :blessed:
 

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Hmm which is a more through line? Trump beating two women or whatever gobbledygook you’re regurgitating.

Going to apply Occam’s razor to this one and go with the former
Neither of lost specifically because they were a woman, they lost because the trash policy they chose to back. The crazy part is kamala ran even further to the right than Hilary:dead: Hilary at least had decades of right wing framing to fight. Kamala ran on defending bidens ineffectiveness the last 2 years and how she'd back wallstreet
 

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Neither of lost specifically because they were a woman, they lost because the trash policy they chose to back. The crazy part is kamala ran even further to the right than Hilary:dead: Hilary at least had decades of right wing framing to fight. Kamala ran on defending bidens ineffectiveness the last 2 years and how she'd back wallstreet
Please tell me something that isn’t left wing grifter talking points. Can you put your ideology in your own words? :therethere:
 

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Please tell me something that isn’t left wing grifter talking points. Can you put your ideology in your own words? :therethere:
What does left wing "grifters" have to do with discussing kamalas campaign? Is this the new coward centrist take claim every criticism of the last campaign is led by some astroturfing left wing campaign:dead: u sound like Bernie supporters in 16. Joe Biden was a dog shyt president after 2022, kamala was a dog shyt candidate after the initial possible left wing hype and the American people decided to elect a fascist change candidate instead. It's simple.

Kamala was so bad trump would beat her on left wing ideas such as no tax on tips :snoop:
 

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Please tell me something that isn’t left wing grifter talking points. Can you put your ideology in your own words? :therethere:
Honestly I don’t think anyone should take him seriously until he has the balls to hold AOC accountable for being a war criminal. The dems can’t expect to win over the majority of voters if they have a war criminal parading across the country.
 

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What does left wing "grifters" have to do with discussing kamalas campaign? Is this the new coward centrist take claim every criticism of the last campaign is led by some astroturfing left wing campaign:dead: u sound like Bernie supporters in 16. Joe Biden was a dog shyt president after 2022, kamala was a dog shyt candidate after the initial possible left wing hype and the American people decided to elect a fascist change candidate instead. It's simple.

Kamala was so bad trump would beat her on left wing ideas such as no tax on tips :snoop:
They have everything to do with your posts because all you do is repeat what they say. I’ve heard everything you said in your previous post ad nauseam by the grifters you follow.

How was Kamala a “dog shyt” candidate?
 
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