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The irony is that if hypothetically Newsom after winning in 2028 was able to bring us back to the 2016 status quo then implemented the 2016 Clinton platform he would be seen as transformational and Newsom would be held as a GOAT.

What’s missed on these people who can’t be compelled to vote but know that they should vote is if Clinton won in 2016… we’d be much closer to the socialist paradise they envision than we are now.

Republicans winning doesn’t keep the country in a holding pattern that subsequent left leaning presidents can continue to build on, the Republicans regress the country substantially, not voting is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Anyone advocating for not voting or voting third party in an election when MAGA is on the ballot should be confronted on it every time they claim to be a progressive.

The bullshyt the Trump SCOTUS alone has done will set progressive priorities back decades.

One can at the same time hope to see a better version of the Democratic Party, but also be a part of a coalition to stop fascism. Not sure why some think those are mutually exclusive choices.
 

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I'm old enough to remember in the 24 hours after Harris lost, the immediate discussion among democrats was "how much more racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, and anti-immigrant can we become" so all this talk about protecting marginalized people is very interesting.
 

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The irony is that if hypothetically Newsom after winning in 2028 was able to bring us back to the 2016 status quo then implemented the 2016 Clinton platform he would be seen as transformational and Newsom would be held as a GOAT.
:dead: democrat voters y'all. How many elections we have to lose until we stop saying this stupid shyt. Do we need citizens in straight up gas chambers or something? I'll up these post in 2032 if newsome wins
 

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So far it seems we just have the usual suspects pushing MAGA apologia/pro authoritarian talk still. I’m encouraged others haven’t been swayed. It’s heartening to see stuff like this is still isolated to dying internet message boards and not reality.
 

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So far it seems we just have the usual suspects pushing MAGA apologia/pro authoritarian talk still. I’m encouraged others haven’t been swayed. It’s heartening to see stuff like this is still isolated to dying internet message boards and not reality.
The low democratic party approval rating is fake, breh?
 

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:dead: democrat voters y'all. How many elections we have to lose until we stop saying this stupid shyt. Do we need citizens in straight up gas chambers or something? I'll up these post in 2032 if newsome wins
You sheep of the grifting leftist are idiots.


If Newsom was able to fully reverse Trump’s polices and get us back to the 2016 status quo THEN implement Clinton’s 2016 platform he would be seen as one of the GOATs..

Here’s a reminder of what your people thought of as “MID” back then.

Clinton ran on:

- Raising the minimum wage to $12 (Newsom would inflation adjust that)

-Including a public option to Obama care and then lowering the Medicare age to 55

- By returning to the 2016 status quo Newsom some would reverse Trump’s tax cuts then implement Clinton’s tax plan wish was to raise taxes on the wealthy and cut taxes for the middle class.

- implement free public college for those making under 125k (could be inflation adjusted)

- massive investments in clean energy

- Clinton opposed mass deportation so Newsom would reverse ICE funding, and establish a pathway to citizenship

- Clinton wanted to end private prisons

- Clinton wanted keep our foreign partnerships strong, so Newsom would reverse Trump’s tariffs and work to reestablish trust with our allies to the 2016 status quo.


So yes If Newsom was able to revert us back to 2016 by reversing Trump’s policies and then implementing Clinton’s, he would be seen as a transformational presidency.


Clinton winning in 2016 doesn’t see so “mid” now, huh?
 

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You sheep of the grifting leftist are idiots.


If Newsom was able to fully reverse Trump’s polices and get us back to the 2016 status quo THEN implement Clinton’s 2016 platform he would be seen as one of the GOATs..

Here’s a reminder of what your people thought of as “MID” back then.

Clinton ran on:

- Raising the minimum wage to $12 (Newsom would inflation adjust that)

Dog shyt
-Including a public option to Obama care and then lowering the Medicare age to 55

Garbage public options are terrible
- By returning to the 2016 status quo Newsom some would reverse Trump’s tax cuts then implement Clinton’s tax plan wish was to raise taxes on the wealthy and cut taxes for the middle class.

This cant be done
- implement free public college for those making under 125k (could be inflation adjusted)
that's fine
- massive investments in clean energy
Means nothing this is just centrist babble
- Clinton opposed mass deportation so Newsom would reverse ICE funding, and establish a pathway to citizenship

Newsome does not oppose ice, why are you making up scenarios that do not exist like an idiot
- Clinton wanted to end private prisons

Hilary Clinton received funding from private prisons this was campaign babble forced by bernie
- Clinton wanted keep our foreign partnerships strong, so Newsom would reverse Trump’s tariffs and work to reestablish trust with our allies to the 2016 status quo.

Foreign partnerships are done for the foreseeable future, the old us hegemony has to work in a different aspect. Going back to status quo won't work.

So yes If Newsom was able to revert us back to 2016 by reversing Trump’s policies and then implementing Clinton’s, he would be seen as a transformational presidency.

No people want beyond 2016, how many elections do we have to lose before you realize that voters do not want status quo?
Clinton winning in 2016 doesn’t see so “mid” now, huh?
Was mid then it's mid now, if we ran better candidates maybe we stop losing to republican fascist, but hey maybe we need them to go further before we learn our lesson.
 

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Democratic insiders and operatives should probably stop paying clowns like this guy because this tweet captures why we’re here. Literally the ratchet effect.

So what is your theory of the case? Do you think that a JD Vance Administration would bring the country closer to progressive goals?
 

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You sheep of the grifting leftist are idiots.


If Newsom was able to fully reverse Trump’s polices and get us back to the 2016 status quo THEN implement Clinton’s 2016 platform he would be seen as one of the GOATs..

Here’s a reminder of what your people thought of as “MID” back then.

Clinton ran on:

- Raising the minimum wage to $12 (Newsom would inflation adjust that)

-Including a public option to Obama care and then lowering the Medicare age to 55

- By returning to the 2016 status quo Newsom some would reverse Trump’s tax cuts then implement Clinton’s tax plan wish was to raise taxes on the wealthy and cut taxes for the middle class.

- implement free public college for those making under 125k (could be inflation adjusted)

- massive investments in clean energy

- Clinton opposed mass deportation so Newsom would reverse ICE funding, and establish a pathway to citizenship

- Clinton wanted to end private prisons

- Clinton wanted keep our foreign partnerships strong, so Newsom would reverse Trump’s tariffs and work to reestablish trust with our allies to the 2016 status quo.


So yes If Newsom was able to revert us back to 2016 by reversing Trump’s policies and then implementing Clinton’s, he would be seen as a transformational presidency.


Clinton winning in 2016 doesn’t see so “mid” now, huh?

Biden also listened to the far left on a lot of issues and it burned him.

They don’t understand that they are never getting a candidate who gives them everything they want so they should take some victories like Biden gave them

Maybe the Dems should run a AOC or whoever and finally shut these people up because if she gets destroyed in a presidential election they’ll finally have to face the fact that there policies aren’t popular nationally
 
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