Democrats keep demonizing progressives, yet the masses keep voting for progressive ideas.

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you guys still dont get it, do you :dead:

voters in middle america might want some of this shyt, but they dont want it from the far left when it comes bundled with illegal immigration and 50-gender san francisco values and all the other stupid identity shyt liberals run on, so its not gonna translate to votes on election day

and thats not gonna change :yeshrug: i dont know what the answer is. stop running on raising taxes and just do it after you get elected would be a start
Who runs on any of that stuff you're talking about? Please name names.

The issue is this. The majority of white people vote republican and will always do so. Many of them don't hold republicans accountable either. Republicans can say repeal and replace for like 10 years about Obamacare and never actually float a valid plan to replace it. They can use the courts to dismantle it and even go as far as remove people's coverage for pre-existing conditions then lie about it and say they aren't gonna do it and nobody will question them on it.

A minority of white people look at what republicans do and see that all their policies are mostly to benefit rich people at the expense of the poor and middle class so they vote for democrats. Elections come down to how much of that section of white people and how much minorities in general turn out and who they vote for.

When it comes to real progressive stuff (typically that benefits common people first and furthermost neither the republican or democrat party are interested in pushing that. Both parties answer to their donors and the donors don't want that.

Progressives have the entire political machine working against them. Democrats truth be told would rather republicans have power than progressives. Republicans obviously don't want progressives in power. Nobody is trying to turn the US into Venezuela but that's how progressive policies get portrayed.
 

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you guys still dont get it, do you :dead:

voters in middle america might want some of this shyt, but they dont want it from the far left when it comes bundled with illegal immigration and 50-gender san francisco values and all the other stupid identity shyt liberals run on, so its not gonna translate to votes on election day

and thats not gonna change :yeshrug: i dont know what the answer is. stop running on raising taxes and just do it after you get elected would be a start
No one runs on raising taxes they are asked about it and answer honestly. Elizabeth Warren tried to offer free stuff and also claimed it wouldn't effect your taxes and no one believes her.
If you cannot get behind M4A, higher minimum wage and a coherent immigration policy because people who are socially liberal are selling it then you don't want it that badly.
 

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Right, so they vote for a party that literally has no platform other than fascism. Seems like their hatred for anything supporting the non-white, non-straight, non-Christian demographics of this country trumps any of those policies they're supposedly in favor for.
yes :yeshrug:

 

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No one runs on raising taxes they are asked about it and answer honestly. Elizabeth Warren tried to offer free stuff and also claimed it wouldn't effect your taxes and no one believes her.
If you cannot get behind M4A, higher minimum wage and a coherent immigration policy because people who are socially liberal are selling it then you don't want it that badly.
yea, because she was lying :scusthov:

i remember that :mjlol:
 

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Uhh you actually can. It's illegal to drive without car insurance and you will be criminally penalized if you don't. Don't hear anyone (outside of Libertarian Presidential debates :mjlol:) complaining about the government taking away their freedom to drive a car without insurance though. Go figure.

you can’t compare the two. Driving is a privilege and an option all together.

A correct analogy would be that I have to have car insurance even if I don’t have a car. Better yet, even if I don’t have a drivers lincense I have to have car insurance and if I don’t, I have to pay a penalty.
 

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you can’t compare the two. Driving is a privilege and an option all together.

A correct analogy would be that I have to have car insurance even if I don’t have a car. Better yet, even if I don’t have a drivers lincense I have to have car insurance and if I don’t, I have to pay a penalty.
This ignores that the overwhelming majority of people will need and seak out medical care some time or another.
 

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This ignores that the overwhelming majority of people will need and seak out medical care some time or another.
Yeah people wanna gamble by not having medical coverage but if those same people need medical care they aren't gonna go "well I lost out here so whatever happens happens" no they're gonna go seek medical care without insurance.
 

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you can’t compare the two. Driving is a privilege and an option all together.

A correct analogy would be that I have to have car insurance even if I don’t have a car. Better yet, even if I don’t have a drivers lincense I have to have car insurance and if I don’t, I have to pay a penalty.
You're exactly right, driving is a privilege whereas health is a necessity. Your body is your car. Everyone who has a body should be required to be insured.
 
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