Democrats point to Nordic nations as models of socialism & Healthcare; Here’s how they actually work
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Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
who takes more from you: immigrants or the wealthiest 1%? 
you know the answer.
you know the answer.
thats my point. we're over here as usual arguing about one of the lower reasons when the obvious highest reasons are never addressed.who takes more from you: immigrants or the wealthiest 1%?
you know the answer.
https://www.ahip.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/HealthCareDollar_FINAL.pdf
Boom. The other thing these articles never mention is that in these countries, while you are here working and paying taxes, you pay a much higher tax against these services until you sort your papers out. The ability for you to be paid straight into your hand like illegal immigrants are paid in the US is very low. That's why I always advocate for employers of illegal immigrants to be punished as much as the immigrants themselves.
bruh, the point is that democrats jumped out the gate promising to cover illegals.
not even the most progressive societies do that.
and we have more illegals than all of them combined!
In a healthcare system that is premised on as many people as possible paying into the pot for it to fukking work? That statement is blatantly untrue.
I want democrats to win.who takes more from you: immigrants or the wealthiest 1%?
you know the answer.
offering MORE shyt to illegals isn't helping that.
Illegals don't pay in because it doesn't account for all the taxes they DONT pay.
Not to mention remittances
Sales taxes alone don't cover this.
i'd rather they not be here in the first place.Does it cost more to insure them or detain them for 721 days on average while they wait for trial?
the notion that democrats are running on giving illegals healthcare is making republicans salivate.
Yall fukked up in 2016 underestimating what motivates republicans. Lets not make it easy for them.
I've warned you all of all this shyt.
If you wanna get progressive, you have to get smart.
lets get the numbers straight first.
thats not 15-20 mil. thats more like 13 to 15 mil. which is a huge difference.
Illegal Immigration Statistics - FactCheck.org
So if that many illegal people are here right now. and a lot of them are going to our kids schools, walking, riding buses, other public transportation, using public parks, restrooms, with us legal citizens. This means if they dont get coverage. Every health issue they have that could be contagious will turn into a big issue for legal citizens.
You think illegal immigrants dont get the measels? TB, etc?
mess around and dont provide them healthcare and see what happens to us legal folks.
You pass universal and at the same time tighten up the illegal immigrant laws but make them make ethical and logical sense. The asylum process needs to be a lot better and faster.
1. They shouldn't be here.
2. Democrats are running on giving them healthcare
3. The risk of illegals producing health outbreaks is a function of the fact they (1) they shouldn't be here!
Fact is, most of those asylum claims are BS too...but yall dont wanna have that convo either. Thats another convo.
How can you think its remotely smart policy or framing to give illegals universal healthcare?
Everyone can go to the ER.
Thats not the point. We're talking about the regular shyt you and I get.
Yall love just GIVING republicans fundraising ideas.
This shyt just confuses me.
Yall wont even make republicans work for these easy lay ups
And MOST people do not support giving illegals healthcare.
This shyt just confuses me.
Yall wont even make republicans work for these easy lay ups
And MOST people do not support giving illegals healthcare.
Because, if you aren't playing politics and fearmongering like the Republicans, getting those people to pay into the system actually benefits the system. If you have employers flouting your tax laws to make a quick bill paying illegals that seems to be a bigger problem. Why is that not being policed properly. You cant have your cake and eat it too.
Turnout was down across the board in 2016.
In 2016 you said Hillary Clinton ran a master class.
If this is about cost, then why have you ignored my question?
I'm not a republican, I could care less what motivates them. But UHC is popular among dems and is deal or no deals for the largest growing segment of the electorate.
Stop trolling me and man up when you talk to me bro.
Its not fukking fearmongering.
Cut that bullshyt out.
Just stop it.
This is seriously pissing me off.
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS...DO NOT EVEN GET HEALTHCARE INSURANCE...IN THE MOST PROGRESSIVE COUNTRIES...AND WE HAVE MORE ILLEGALS THAN ALL OF THEM COMBINED!
Just stop with the bullshyt.
I'm all for punishing illegals. But illegals shuoldn't be here in the first place. Why can't you sack up like the male you claim to be and just say so? What do you gain out of doing this shyt?
And for what?????????????
I said hillary ran a masterclass during a single speech and yall ran with that shyt with a game of telephone. stop goddamn trolling.Turnout was down across the board in 2016.
In 2016 you said Hillary Clinton ran a master class.
If this is about cost, then why have you ignored my question?
I'm not a republican, I could care less what motivates them. But UHC is popular among dems and is deal or no deals for the largest growing segment of the electorate.
UHC is popular...FOR AMERICANS. PERIOD.