Did 2Pac really "run" the year 1996? Or was it either the Fugees or Nas' year?

Who ran the year 1996?


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L0Qutus

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94-96 was the peak time period for hip hop. Every region had their Titans: Pac, Snoop, Dre in the West, Biggie, Jay-z, Nas in the East, and OUTkast, Scarface, and Jermaine Dupri (in terms of production) in the South. Then you had Grunge music still going strong and Pop Music.
I'm :flabbynsick:, I was in college during the mid-late 90's. I was sitting in computer labs at 2AM listening to Tical, Ready to Die, Me Against the World, Safe+Sound, The Infamous, etc. Man, we had it soo good:blessed:

Pac caused the most ruckus during 95-96 with the Bad Boy beef(which morphed into a East vs West beef), AEOM, dropping DK7DT but I wouldn't say he was the most successful commercially.

Fugees had more crossover appeal and back in the 80's and early 90's everybody bought and listened to all kinds of music (I think that led to better hip hop production/sampling). My cousins were gangsta as fukk and they had a Nirvana tape:manny:. Alanis Morrissette, Green Day, Sound Garden, Smashin Pumpkins, Jewel etc were all putting up monster sales numbers.

We are never going to see the music industry as successful as it used to be all the way up until 2000. Torrenting has come through and crushed the buildings. Without a profit motive many record companies folded or were bought out, the record stores all closed, and without any reason to make new music it seams like we only got like 5 big stars for the past 10 yrs and nothing but trap beats b/c producers don't have money for sample clearances.
There's only one person who's putting up sales numbers like real stars did in the 90's and that's Taylor Swift:francis:
 

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All that sales by 2 talk, we know that buddy. He was also pushing a $30 product that did over 500,000 first week. I don't know your point of reference, perhaps you were listening to music at coffeeshops and/or with the drama club kids but Tupac was by far the bigger commodity and sensation. The Fugees had some cover songs on the radio

You know that yet talk about it selling 500 first week, as if that really wasnt about 250 first week. So it seems you dont know, "buddy". And the last comment was just corny. Them having a cover or not is totally irrelevant to what i was saying so..next.

This is the way it was...at first it was neck and neck and then the Fugees were getting the lead but after Pacs death it was all Pac. Makaveli dropped late 96 when Fugees had already shot their whole load for 96. Makaveli overshadowed Doggfather, Ironman, Muddy Waters and anything the Fugees had already done.....Pac had two moments in 96, one alive and one in death...Fugees only had one moment

Right but Makaveli did as you mention drop after his death. So it explains why it overshadowed anything else just off gp. Doesnt mean he wouldnt have sold alot otherwise but just sayin. Also, Makaveli dropped November 1996. Thats 2 months before the year is gone. So if you say he overshadowed them by that time then again it has more to do with him dying, him dropping an right before the year end doesnt reflect much of 1996. I can see the comparisons with the other albums as they came out the same period. Not disagreeing with you but thats if you add in other factors imo.
 

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Lol,I was 17 young man. NOW,AEOM and THE SCORE came out around the same time. Both had huge sales and singles. But AEOM had the album cuts to match. None of fugees album cuts were getting bumped or talked about.
Which is why I say pac was dominating. But when you say "especially after he died" ,i'm like well it was a clear absolutely clear victory prior to that.

It ain't like I said he was doin' aiiiiight until he died... it was already his year, and the peak of his career before that happened. I said 'especially' after he died, because although he already had the hits, and AEOM was clearly one of the most popular albums... once he died, his airplay kicked into overdrive, and when people found out he had ANOTHER album coming, obviously the anticipation to hear what may have been his final recordings was high. Keep in mind at the time we didn't know muhfukkas were gonna be remixing and copy/pasting his vocals and shyt for the next 20 years, so this being Pac's final album made it an automatic MUST-have. So even tho' it was just the last three months of the year, it made what was already a big year for him (unfortunately) an even bigger year after his passing.
 

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For me, even tho' it was def. Pac's year... it's hard to look at '96 and say any one particular artist "RAN" it tho'. There were so many artists coming with hits from everywhere, Hip-hop in general ran '96. I think that was THE year that it fully broke through and took over not just black culture but American pop culture. It's bigger than sales, bigger than radio play, bigger than MTV... it was a pivotal year altogether.

That's my 1996 :mjcry:
 

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You know that yet talk about it selling 500 first week, as if that really wasnt about 250 first week. So it seems you dont know, "buddy". And the last comment was just corny. Them having a cover or not is totally irrelevant to what i was saying so..next.



Right but Makaveli did as you mention drop after his death. So it explains why it overshadowed anything else just off gp. Doesnt mean he wouldnt have sold alot otherwise but just sayin. Also, Makaveli dropped November 1996. Thats 2 months before the year is gone. So if you say he overshadowed them by that time then again it has more to do with him dying, him dropping an right before the year end doesnt reflect much of 1996. I can see the comparisons with the other albums as they came out the same period. Not disagreeing with you but thats if you add in other factors imo.

With your wack ass generic contrarian, go against the grain chip on your shoulder ass dissenter complex. Can't even get your facts straight



it sold 500,000 first week. Those are Billboard numbers which come from Nielson Soundscan numbers - which me units sold - not RIAA certification numbers, which mean units shipped.


And on too of this, Tupac generated a mammoth $100 million in revenue. He was the bigger act
 

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were huge but in hiphop Pac was king at the time
 

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With your wack ass generic contrarian, go against the grain chip on your shoulder ass dissenter complex. Can't even get your facts straight



it sold 500,000 first week. Those are Billboard numbers which come from Nielson Soundscan numbers - which me units sold - not RIAA certification numbers, which mean units shipped.


And on too of this, Tupac generated a mammoth $100 million in revenue. He was the bigger act

Word, which drawls did he wear that you liked? There so many ways to argue your clearly wrong facts & points but whats the point. But i still stand by what i said earlier. Deal with it. And your attempts at insults are beyond corny :mjlol:
 

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Word, which drawls did he wear that you liked? There so many ways to argue your clearly wrong facts & points but whats the point. But i still stand by what i said earlier. Deal with it. And your attempts at insults are beyond corny :mjlol:


This idiot stands by being wrong
 

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Yea def 2pac.

Take a break and just think about the projects he was planning for 1997, insane.

One Nation with Bootcamp, Outkast, Big Daddy Kane, Goodie Mob, Snoop Dogg and many others. Soundtracks from his movies + Me against the world Part 2
 

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For me, even tho' it was def. Pac's year... it's hard to look at '96 and say any one particular artist "RAN" it tho'. There were so many artists coming with hits from everywhere, Hip-hop in general ran '96. I think that was THE year that it fully broke through and took over not just black culture but American pop culture. It's bigger than sales, bigger than radio play, bigger than MTV... it was a pivotal year altogether.

That's my 1996 :mjcry:
96 was so dope to me because there was a perfect blend of commercial and "authentic" or whatever you wanna call it. There was a lot of radio friendly stuff that didn't seem like nikkas were comprimising too much. I know there were cats that were hating on IWW, but that album was gutter even though it was a more commercial sound. Busta and LL albums had joints popping that carried over from '95 and were getting spins. "Loungin" rmx was getting crazy rotation well into the summer

Plus TV was so dope, the NBA & NCAA with the Bulls, Sonics, Magic, young A.I., Jesus, Kobe, KG, Starbury....96 was just too fun man, I thought things were gonna be like that forever :to:
 
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