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Kevin Garnett before he got to the Celtics for sure

KG is like my All-Time favorite player and as much as I’d love to agree, nah. That squad he had around 03-04 that included Sprewell, Sam Cassell, Wally Scerbiak, Troy Hudson, etc. was really good. Went to the WCF. He had Marbury towards the beginning of his career. Coulda been a great 1-2 punch but Steph was unhappy being Robin so he slid. You could argue that the T-Wolves didn’t surround him with a quality squad consistently over 12 years but I can’t say he never had help.
 

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KG is like my All-Time favorite player and as much as I’d love to agree, nah. That squad he had around 03-04 that included Sprewell, Sam Cassell, Wally Scerbiak, Troy Hudson, etc. was really good. Went to the WCF. He had Marbury towards the beginning of his career. Coulda been a great 1-2 punch but Steph was unhappy being Robin so he slid. You could argue that the T-Wolves didn’t surround him with a quality squad consistently over 12 years but I can’t say he never had help.
Marbury was a up and comer and never got close to his peak with the wolves

And yea from 95 to 03 he had shyt. And after 03 he went right back to having shyt. So yea definitely true
 

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Patrick Ewing gotta be on here. Just off the top of my head ewing only played 3 players in his prime that made the all star game

starks- 94, one and only time
Oakley- 94, one and only time
Mark jackson- 89, one and only time

Agree.

Watching the Knicks at the time I thought they had a squad but in retrospect Ewing played with bums. Starks was a CBA player, talented but undersized for his position. Charles Smith was garbage. Oakley had no offensive moves, all he could do was shoot that 15 footer which he wasn't that great at. Derek Harper was nice but past his prime.
 

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Plus in '94, I believe Cassell/Horry were both rookies.

Hakeem had them dudes getting wide open shots.

Hakeem's the real reason Barkley has no rings.The

Suns had them down 3-1 one of those years, but

couldn't close the deal.In fact, I believe the Suns were

up 3-1 in both '94 & '95...But yeah what Hakeem did

with that '94 squad, he has to be up there

Cassell was. Horry was a rookie in the '93 season.
 

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How much help did Dirk have over the years? It’s still more than Nique but I’m just asking. Dirk had a young Nash and an old Jason Kidd. Who else? Michael Finley?

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Prime nash
Prime finley
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Worthy coulda had the same numbers Dominique had if he was in the same situation.

Dominique wouldn’t be scoring 25 per on the same team with Magic, Kareem, Byron, and Perkins, either.
James was the main one on that Lakers team playing above the rim - he was the finisher; the oop catcher...that’s all Nique woulda been used for as well.

I think Worthy was a better fit for LA than Wilkins, although Nique would have had so many highlight reel fast break dunks.
 
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He had a lot of help in the mid to late 80's but he just ran into better teams, like Bird's Celtics and the Bad Boy Pistons.

He had Doc Rivers who was an all star. Kevin Willis, very good player. And other solid players like Wittman, McGee, Tree Rollins, Kevin Livingston.

And a couple of years after that the Hawks traded for Moses Malone and Reggie Theus. Two all stars.

So he almost always had a team with 1 all star other than himself. Which was less than what Olajuwon got when he won championships.
 

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It can’t be Hakeem. He can’t be over Ewing he had Clyde for one of his rings and he played with Ralph Sampson earlier in his career. He also played on a “superteam” with Charles Barkley and Scottie Pippen.

Also, Hakeem in ‘94 may not have had a high volume secondary scorer. But what he did have was the best spacing/shooting of any team and the most clutch collection of role players in history.

Sam Cassell, Robert Horry, Mario Elie, Kenny Smith all had critical games or gamewinners. They was called Clutch City for a reason.

I agree that Hakeem had more help throughout his career, but I’d say Ewing had more help during that 94’ postseason, or at least during their series. Starks had that awful game 7, but he and Harper outplayed Houston’s backcourt throughput the series. Kenny Smith was non-existent, and I think Mad Max and Cassell each had maybe one good game throughout the series.

Hakeem just badly outplayed Ewing in that series.
 

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Isiah had joe from mcneese st, an airport janitor who did time, aguirre and a buncha role players/castoffs.

#11 did the most with less
 

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KG is like my All-Time favorite player and as much as I’d love to agree, nah. That squad he had around 03-04 that included Sprewell, Sam Cassell, Wally Scerbiak, Troy Hudson, etc. was really good. Went to the WCF. He had Marbury towards the beginning of his career. Coulda been a great 1-2 punch but Steph was unhappy being Robin so he slid. You could argue that the T-Wolves didn’t surround him with a quality squad consistently over 12 years but I can’t say he never had help.

You left a major factor off that list: Googs.

Gugliotta was a bad mofo mid-key, and he was in his prime as a Wolf...
 
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